Speaker 1: 0:01

Okay, that's not what we're gonna talk about, though we're gonna talk about the radio.

Speaker 2: 0:07

Oh, I was like fart noises. No, we're gonna talk about fart noises.

Speaker 1: 0:12

I have a new fart noise machine that I wanna pitch to people.

Speaker 2: 0:14

Oh, you've redesigned the whoopee cushion very nice.

Speaker 1: 0:17

So here's the thing Scott, you're a podcast producer. You're the expert in this show. This is like you're expert.

Speaker 2: 0:21

It's good when you're the expert. Get out of my way when it's movies, when it's something that's your expert.

Speaker 1: 0:25

Okay, movie expert, movie expert, podcast expert. Okay, you're the expert on this WTF.

Speaker 2: 0:31

Oh, with Mark Marin. That's a show why, Okay, you really are the expert.

Speaker 1: 0:36

You're fast, you can't trick me, I know that one no.

Speaker 2: 0:39

Joe Roken. That's a show.

Speaker 1: 0:46

Here's the solution. Spotify are some podcast. You know institution. Yes, you could buy AM radio stations and put podcasts onto them Full stuff. How is that not happening already?

Speaker 2: 1:03

It's so freaking obvious. How are they not repurposing?

Speaker 1: 1:05

How much does an AM radio station cost? Probably like $50,000. Like nothing.

Speaker 2: 1:09

I have no idea.

Speaker 1: 1:10

In the middle of nowhere, you know, rural. It's all cheap, you know, and you can buy a tiny bandwidth. There's a huge bandwidth, sure, Most of it's empty. Have you turned your radio and it goes a cross for like a whole part of it and AM goes really far. It goes really far. It covers hundreds of miles. Why don't they just buy AM radio stations and digitally pipe in episodes of podcasts? Well then, it's insane, and then they could put ads in and make tons of money if you're a radio station.

Speaker 2: 1:40

You're just like you're reinventing radio I know, but it's insane. But the problem is people weren't listening to radio because it was having too many ads or like they weren't able to get the shows that they want on demand. So maybe you'd have like a channel of this American life or it.

Speaker 2: 1:56

Well, that's a bad example, because this American life is a radio show that then gets turned into a podcast. But like you're like, this is well, you would have to have, I guess, shows that don't have cursing on them right Because you're on the air wave.

Speaker 1: 2:13

You'd have to beep it out.

Speaker 1: 2:13

You'd have to put beeped versions out or you could also say apply to this podcast program, which is the radio program, because it would be a whole other monetization and be a whole other thing and it'd be like candidates for this should do, do, do, do, do, no swearing. The episode should be these length, these ad breaks built in. They could say. But if they put that out there we would no doubt. I think we would no doubt. At least it is an experiment. We would produce 10 episodes of that and apply and try to get on the radio airwaves.

Speaker 2: 2:46

That's so cool. Well, I think I've heard of them doing it kind of in reverse, where there will be radio stations that produce a show for their radio and then they will put out a podcast version of that but it's not. I haven't heard of one where it's like we're a radio station and we buy podcasts and then put them on the and.

Speaker 1: 3:05

Spotify could do it like really technologically, like they could like using algorithms and using like like there wouldn't even have to be anybody at the radio station Like it could just connect to the internet. They could like go to the radio station where the tower is and then just plug it into the internet and be like, okay, now our software just digitally.

Speaker 2: 3:22

They could definitely, yeah, they could definitely pipe in the audio that they have. But I'm trying to figure out why would like Spotify feels like they're in the business of trying to kill radio stations, not but why not like?

Speaker 1: 3:34

it's just technology. They have an Android app, they have an iPhone app. It's true, it's just a channel, okay, and it's not expensive to run because, again, you just plug it in the internet. They wouldn't even have to be anyone there, it could all be run like right. Whatever Spotify's office, wherever it is in Sweden or whatever, I don't know.

Speaker 2: 3:52

I was alive when they did that whole switch with radio, where it kind of went from being Individual, small market things where it's like these two DJs are from your spot and they talk about to, like you know, we're piping in Jack FM or whatever like this automated radio this automated thing that comes from a central. I mean Ryan Seacrest now does his show in LA and then they broadcast it everywhere. I mean they were doing that with Howard Stern way back when and like lots of syndicated radio shows but yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 4:22

It would be kind of the reverse of that, where you've already got something with an RSS feed, a syndicated feed, right, and then you're broad, you're deciding you would need a programming director, maybe, because it's not like every episode of every show gets on. But like what would?

Speaker 1: 4:36

what would our listeners care about and yeah, yeah, it'd be a radio show so people would be like cool, we're gonna do like certain segments are gonna be like repeating every every week at a certain time Other segments, and then at all night long you could just do reruns you know and you could build up.

Speaker 2: 4:52

It works both ways right. You could build up new listeners to discover it, like who are just listening to the show. What's the problem with station Discovery?

Speaker 1: 5:01

that's the freaking problem. Well, guess what? Spotify, you invested hundreds of millions of dollars in spot in podcasts, right, spend another couple hundred thousand you could acquire an AM radio and see if you don't get more discoverability Difference. I mean the thing really blasting it out into the ether. Now you know.

Speaker 2: 5:18

I feel like YouTube is trying to do this, but also everyone's trying to figure out. The one good thing that TV had going for it was that you would just leave it on. Just leave it on. Whatever comes on next gets a little bit of the. That's what I would do.

Speaker 1: 5:31

I was, I was going on, I was painting the other day. Yeah, and take, I paint for like three hours usually. Okay, what do I listen to? I'm not gonna. I have paint all over my hands.

Speaker 2: 5:40

You're not changing. I can't touch my phone right.

Speaker 1: 5:42

If. But if I set a radio, turn on bam great, I love it, it's great, but it's all this old Crap, because radios for cotton tops, you know radio.

Speaker 2: 5:55

I hope care top changes his name to cotton when he gets older. And he's got only props meant for like elderly people with four legs. Oh, I tied prunes to this walking cane, and isn't that my new prop?

Speaker 1: 6:10

I'm cotton top, thank you.

Speaker 2: 6:11

It's been cotton top.

Speaker 1: 6:12

I don't think he's gonna make it till he has gray hair. Well, you talk about look healthy. What?

Speaker 2: 6:17

he's like. He started lifting weights like great. He looks like a steroid freak now.

Speaker 1: 6:21

I think doesn't he gets healthy devs. Steroids in your system, no, no but heart attack every WWF wrestler.

Speaker 2: 6:28

And how long do they live?

Speaker 1: 6:30

Yeah, exactly, they don't get gray hair. It's true, that's true. They die. All right, carrot top is definitely gonna die. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, wow, scott.

Speaker 2: 6:38

Sorry, scott, if you're listening to this, scott, his name is Scott. He's another Scott two Scots.

Speaker 1: 6:43

I thought I knew his last name but oh, by the way, I'm Adam Brouse, I'm Scott, I'm up. A solutions for the multi. Welcome Everybody that was in the middle. Hey, we did it. Oh, it's 10 minutes in, it's not too?

Speaker 2: 6:52

bad. It's not bad. Yeah, we got it couple minutes in.

Speaker 1: 6:56

But yeah, solutions of the multi-various. We have a new solution every week. This week solution is Spotify should buy am radios and radio stations, and just blast podcasts. Okay, another podcast idea mini sidebar solution. Okay, we just talked about this the other day. Someone you told me someone left a comment on our Spotify podcast episode or the solution or the episode show.

Speaker 2: 7:26

Spotify has a place where you can ask questions and our former guest, current listener.

Speaker 1: 7:32

Eric's friend Christine, or it's public, it's public somewhere. He'll put a comment on there. This is so stupid and I get an email about it to like approve the comment, but I don't know where it lives. I need to just grab the Spotify executives by the scruff of the neck and just shake them, cause that'll get our podcast, cause I don't get it Cause I don't get it. Okay, you go. Okay, what's the most, absolutely most successful media organization on the planet?

Speaker 2: 7:59

It's called YouTube, okay.

Speaker 1: 8:01

It doesn't take a fricking rocket surgeon to figure out that YouTube has comments underneath the videos. Okay, open up your Spotify app right now. Go to the podcast episode. Look at that. No comments, what the hell. Just let people put dog whatever they want to say in the comments, you know? And then the and then the creators can read the comments and interact and contact and reply to the comment and well, I was gonna say the comments up.

Speaker 1: 8:31

I mean, this is not fricking rocket surgery. This was invented decades ago. Spotify is just like oh, I don't get it. I don't get what we should do, I don't get it.

Speaker 2: 8:42

Oh my God. Well, part of me wonders if they want to avoid some of the like. Some of the YouTube comment sections are not the most friendly, or but people flag them and then they delete or they vote them up, and then the top is true, yeah, this is a solved problem.

Speaker 1: 8:56

This is not like oh, what do we do? Oh God, we're gonna get through.

Speaker 2: 9:00

They're choosing to be bad at. This is what you're saying.

Speaker 1: 9:02

I think that they take stupid pills every morning. As far as I can tell, I don't get it. I mean, Stop buying stupid pills.

Speaker 2: 9:10

That's step one Going to the pharmacy Get your subscription, get your prescription like changed. Get vitamin D, not vitamin Dumb.

Speaker 1: 9:18

When your doctor's like.

Speaker 2: 9:19

I'm recommending you stupid pills.

Speaker 1: 9:20

You'd be like no, you can use as many stupid pills as you can get. I don't want to. I mean, I don't want to insult Spotify executives if they ever run through business with us.

Speaker 2: 9:28

You've already told me to grab them and shake them.

Speaker 1: 9:30

No, I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna scruff of the neck Just like a bad kitten.

Speaker 2: 9:35

These are adult humans. They don't want to be grabbed by the scruff of their neck.

Speaker 1: 9:39

Well then they should do their damn jobs. Do the job. Clearly you should. Okay, the Spotify AM radio station thing, that's a little bit of a, that's a wacky thing. Clearly they should do it first. You know just one, try it out in like a small market. Maybe they tried in Australia.

Speaker 2: 9:53

Right.

Speaker 1: 9:54

In a sort of secondary market sort of thing. Did you know that almost all video games come out in Australia first? No To test if they're good, and if they're good, then they get launched in America.

Speaker 2: 10:02

What, yeah Weird, I did not know that.

Speaker 1: 10:05

It really is like a tiny. Basically it's like a test market for Americans, because it's like West, you know, it's like Anglo.

Speaker 2: 10:12

You're like in your you're like. I'm reading the comments on this beta version and it says more boomerangs, weird. Okay, I guess we'll throw in more boomerangs, more kangaroos, more shrimps Interesting More Barbies. Not Barbies, but barbecues. No more Barbies, more Barbies. That's why they get confused. Made 1.5 billion dollars a year. That's why the movie Barbie came out was because they were like more Barbies. They tested humongous and everyone was like more.

Speaker 1: 10:34

Barbies. They always want more.

Speaker 2: 10:36

Barbies, we gotta do a movie. You wanna go see a Barbie and they're like, of course I do.

Speaker 1: 10:39

That's good. Yeah, let's go to the Barbie.

Speaker 2: 10:41

They're in a movie and they're like wait a minute, I got tricked. Wait, did he say go to the Barbie. When is there gonna be?

Speaker 1: 10:46

yeah, where's the food coming? Kids these days on TikTok they just say things that are, but I don't know. You're the podcast guy, what do you think?

Speaker 2: 10:55

I mean, am I crazy?

Speaker 1: 10:56

here that podcasts are. No, I don't think you're crazy. Screw in the pooch. I don't think you're crazy.

Speaker 2: 11:01

I think that it is the discoverability. Things go in waves, and so I think what we're seeing with let me jump over to TV what we're seeing is they are like, boo, regular TV, boo cable. We have streaming now. And now they're like oh, streaming doesn't make money, so we'll have to put in ads, and then it's hard to have people discover our shows, so we have to kind of like, link them to other shows or branch them out. And they're just now replicating TV, like they're creating a new version of cable television, which is the thing that they moved away from. But then they're discovering, oh, like.

Speaker 2: 11:34

I think this happens a lot, where it's like oh, we're discovering, things shouldn't be built like this. And then you try and do it a different way and you go oh, now I'm discovering why it was built.

Speaker 1: 11:42

But we're getting the on demand. I mean that's the thing we're gaining. We're gaining that you can watch whatever you want when you press the button, turn on, you know. Although you can't really watch whatever you want, because the show's not on that.

Speaker 2: 11:51

It's sometimes they close it off, yeah exactly Everyone should just bit torrent everything.

Speaker 1: 11:56

Just a little trick, but I think that that's you can safely bit torrent everything. I think that's gonna happen with audio too.

Speaker 2: 12:01

Like audio goes in these flux, where it's like we go through a period where everything is served to you from like a higher level, where it's like the radio station, it's like you get all your music and then now we can start discovering our own music, and now it's kind of like we're the person serving it and then eventually the appetites will go back to you know what I would like to hear, what other people want to serve me.

Speaker 1: 12:24

So let me just suggest that Radio is good for discoverability. Case in point music, oh totally. All music, a lot of most music, I think, is discovered through turning on the radio in your car. You listen to the radio and then you hear that song and then you go and get the album. That used to be for sure, that used to be it. It still is, isn't it? Don't they still Not? For me, I don't know, not forever, but I mean probably for a lot of people, yeah, for a lot of people.

Speaker 2: 12:53

For me, I would say the way I discover music now is movies and TV shows. I'll be watching something and a song will go. I'll be like what is that song?

Speaker 1: 13:01

Like I'll just am it or whatever, or.

Speaker 2: 13:04

I'll look it up from what was playing in that episode and then I'll dig in on that, because that's what I'm exposed to.

Speaker 1: 13:09

That's what is?

Speaker 2: 13:11

the radio used to be where I would have space to be exposed to new things that I wasn't already seeking out. Now it's like that'll come in on the soundtrack of a movie that I wanted to see and I'm like, oh, here's it, but I'm not listening to radio anymore, so that channel's over. But if I hear it as part of the soundtrack to something else, then that sometimes is the answer I need, I guess.

Speaker 1: 13:34

You know, it wouldn't even have to be Spotify.

Speaker 2: 13:37

Well, it shouldn't have to be Spotify, it'd just be a business. Spotify has.

Speaker 2: 13:41

I mean not to talk bad about the masters here, but they like have been, they're on a bit of a bad PR run right now because they just sacked a bunch of long-term podcasts where they had like, bought a bunch of podcasts and made people go Spotify exclusive and then decided like, oh, we're gonna sack all these. A lot of gimlet shows got absorbed or whatever. Heavyweight was this big show that people were excited about, that's over, or whatever. Just because they're like, yeah, we're gonna fold stuff in or we're just gonna close stuff off, and people are like, oh, that's what happens when you sell your show.

Speaker 2: 14:17

You lose the ability you could get shut down or whatever, and then you can't just keep doing it because they own the analyze front? I guess not. I don't know what the rules are.

Speaker 1: 14:25

If you can like, you know take everyone and restart the new thing but you're branding already, yeah. I just thought Spotify would do it, because they invested so much money?

Speaker 2: 14:35

Yeah, they've been making moves and the whole problem with podcasts is discoverability.

Speaker 1: 14:40

So, I thought they were gonna add comments, add more discoverability, more, and then.

Speaker 2: 14:47

Have an algorithm recommend to you other shows, yeah, recommendations right and have it be.

Speaker 1: 14:52

I thought they'd have an algorithm that would clip out short clips and make kind of a TikTok-y sort of experience where you could flick through and maybe that could even autoplay. You could set up your phone and it would just go through clips of a bunch of interesting podcasts and then you'd be like, oh, that clip was really cool. What podcast is that?

Speaker 1: 15:11

Click, follow boom now discoverability, but they don't do it. They don't create the TikTok experience, they don't create comments, they don't even do referrals, like other episodes, like this one down below. They just don't do all the things that. If I was sitting in a room and it was like a whiteboard brainstorm session, okay, okay, everybody, everybody, what do you got for me today? What do you got for discoverability? Like our biggest problem is discoverability, like the simplest obvious things are not being done.

Speaker 2: 15:46

Right, you're the podcast czar at Spotify now. And you're like why isn't there a algorithm recommending snippets down the side?

Speaker 1: 15:54

of everything or whatever, if you like this, you would like these.

Speaker 2: 15:57

we think, and we might be wrong, but check it out and see.

Speaker 1: 16:00

Just think about the screen real estate when you look at your podcast playing on Spotify. I don't even care about the Apple podcast because clearly Apple's asleep at the wheel.

Speaker 2: 16:09

They don't seem to care. They're the biggest purveyor of podcast situations, but they don't seem to care at all.

Speaker 1: 16:15

But so podcast does wanna beat Apple.

Speaker 2: 16:18

They really want to Spotify, yeah.

Speaker 1: 16:19

Spotify and they're clearly not doing it. Just look at the screen, real estate. When you open up, you know, hey, I'm listening to an episode of a podcast.

Speaker 2: 16:26

What does it look like when you're listening to a podcast?

Speaker 1: 16:31

You just see the, you just see the podcast, like episode art or if there is no episode art, then the art of the thing, and it just looks like that it takes up a huge amount of the real estate. It's taken up by this image that gives you very little information, like non information. This thing could just be a little tiny thumbnail. This whole play thing could be a tiny thing up there and the whole rest of it could be comments and referrals and it would be way more information dense and interesting.

Speaker 2: 17:02

Is that the Spotify interaction you're looking?

Speaker 1: 17:04

at Okay, so maybe if you scroll down. So there's a Q and A. What did you think about this episode?

Speaker 2: 17:09

That's probably where by the way, that's probably where Eric's leaving his cues, but then why can't we do it?

Speaker 1: 17:13

Why can't we? I don't. We don't get any notification. I don't see that. And look, I'm in the episode now of our thing, and we don't see that. I'm in the episode and we don't that's the thing.

Speaker 2: 17:24

We may have to figure out how to connect at the end.

Speaker 1: 17:27

Reply it's ridiculous.

Speaker 2: 17:30

It's not very intuitive and it's not very localized.

Speaker 1: 17:34

A child, a child, a child could design it better than they have.

Speaker 2: 17:43

Well, a kid is gonna be like, and then I want this, and then I want this, and then just put them all together.

Speaker 1: 17:48

But I can't believe they don't do it. The TikTok thing would really work, because that's so addicting and you could let it sit and it would just you know, like when I was painting or you're doing anything. You could just turn it on and it would just go through and play five minute shorts from a hundred different podcasts.

Speaker 2: 18:03

And you could direct your own. You could get a playlist of host roasting each other or giving each other like, oh, that'd be fun.

Speaker 1: 18:14

Playing funny jokes on each other or, you know, like a thing of that. Yeah, or you could, and you could just say hey, play episodes about this topic, and it would play all these different episodes.

Speaker 2: 18:23

If they've been talking about. Yeah, Like who's talking about this right now. I don't know why they don't do it.

Speaker 1: 18:27

Anyways, this is the problem with podcasts. Please fix it, because here's my perspective. There's all this amazing content. A big podcast has like 20,000 listeners. That's like nothing. It's like nothing, right? That's like nothing.

Speaker 2: 18:42

Yeah, we only have 40,000 listeners.

Speaker 1: 18:45

A big YouTube channel has like a million subscribers. Yes, sure, a big podcast has like 20,000, maybe 50,000. Maybe much different yeah but there's really no reason why that should be. I think it should be much larger, you know, maybe not as big as YouTube, because it is visual and whatever.

Speaker 1: 19:01

But you can do so much more, like when you're watching YouTube. You have to watch YouTube, but you can do everything. You can drive, you can paint, you can do that. You can bowl. You can do anything while listening to podcasts. How are you gonna bowl?

Speaker 2: 19:15

Oh yeah while you're listening, I thought you were watching YouTube.

Speaker 1: 19:18

Yeah, no, exactly. So podcasts. Actually, there's so much more opportunity for when people could be listening to podcasts while they're walking. You can't walk and watch YouTube. You look like a psycho, right? I know I've tried. So there's all these times when people could be listening to podcasts and Spotify's just screwing it up. They're just not doing the bare minimum obvious things Okay.

Speaker 2: 19:39

you just gave me an idea Side solution Bowling alleys. You don't need to hear just the constant falling of pins and the roll. You know what I mean. Like and the music that they're playing. That's not, you don't need. Okay, so bowling alley. We open a bowling alley, so forget about Spotify buying radio stations. Spotify buys bowling alleys and gives everyone noise, canceling headphones that are playing podcasts while they bowl.

Speaker 1: 20:07

What's the name of it? What's the name of the bowling alley? Sure, what's the concept? I don't know. It'd be like pot and bowl or something.

Speaker 2: 20:17

Bowl cast, bowl cast. Oh, I like that and you go and it's like it's a ver. You've seen those silent discos where they give everyone headphones and then people are dancing and looking like Very fun, partially insane.

Speaker 1: 20:29

I did yoga like that once on the beach. Oh, that's okay.

Speaker 2: 20:31

That seems less weird than dancing to music that no one else can hear. But it's like that, except the bowling version, and we're cutting out all the chikapoo, chikapoo all in terms of bowling sound effects.

Speaker 1: 20:43

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess, but this is a good Scott's Great Idea show, although I still like straight, straight macaroni, straight macaroni. Straight macaroni that was one of the best Scott's Great Idea show episode no, it wasn't an episode, but you just said it, you were like straight macaroni. Macaroni's too curved.

Speaker 2: 21:00

Well, definitely buying radio stations is gonna give you more access to more people than buying bowling alleys, but there might even be listening in our many millions of listeners.

Speaker 1: 21:09

There might be someone who's like I own five AM radio stations and I just don't know what to do with them. You know well, you could put out, you could say okay, we're gonna put up.

Speaker 2: 21:19

If someone gave us a radio station we would definitely like oh, we would do it, I would program, direct it, figure out podcasts to put on there.

Speaker 1: 21:26

Podcasters would be dying. They would love it. Oh sure, this is yeah, I wanna be on there. I'll be like they do it for free. They just give you it for free.

Speaker 2: 21:33

A 25 mile radius in this department, like in this section of the yeah. Nevada. Yeah, of course. You're listening to weird, weird. I've heard some weird stuff. I loved AM radio Like growing up. That would be. My default is put the car on AM radio and hit scan when I'm like driving late at night and find weird. So I have an idea.

Speaker 1: 21:53

Shows. I have an idea what if what this episode really is about is actually incepting into Spotify these ideas.

Speaker 2: 22:03

We're because we are so obvious. We're on Spotify, yeah, but I have an idea. So now we are saying these, I have an idea.

Speaker 1: 22:08

I'm gonna say this and I think we should do it. Okay, we should get the technology to record an eight track of this episode, just whatever it takes, ebay eight track, whatever. Play it into it, record it on an eight track Maybe 10 copies why an eight track? Cause it's eight copies and then write something sort of mysterious on it, like whatever something mysterious on it.

Speaker 2: 22:38

The answer to all your problems.

Speaker 1: 22:40

Put it into a thing and mail it to all the Spotify headquarters. Oh right, okay, cause they'd be like what the hell? And they'd be super curious what was on it? Right, cause it's like an eight track. They'd be super curious. Somebody there would be super curious.

Speaker 2: 22:58

Curious enough to go and find a way to yes, exactly, to play it.

Speaker 1: 23:01

Find a way to play an eight track and then, when they did, it would be like our episode telling them we're going to shake them by the scruff of their necks. Cause they don't know how to run their damn podcast division.

Speaker 2: 23:11

I was like how far did we get at that? Like we have to apologize for the part where we called everyone dumb, dumbs yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1: 23:17

But it'd be so, but the person listening to it would you know they'd be like, oh, these guys are crazy.

Speaker 2: 23:22

Well, but actually, oh, I wonder why you know, they go up to the penthouse of the building. They break into the office of Mr Spotify Shake in the holding this eight track player, Mr Spotify.

Speaker 1: 23:31

Mr Spotify, you have to hear this. You have to hear this.

Speaker 2: 23:33

We've been dumb, dumbs the whole time these, these two nicks in California, have figured it out. They tracked the code by the AM radio stations.

Speaker 1: 23:42

Now, Maybe start with comments that actually work.

Speaker 2: 23:46

Okay, fine Comments. Step one comments. Step two Recommendations AM radio stations. Step three AM radio stations. Step three conquer the world.

Speaker 1: 23:54

Step four Tic Tac, tic Tac. Oh, we're going past. Then AM radios would be last, or you could start like a mini AM radio experiment to kick off.

Speaker 2: 24:03

Yeah, I'm for it. That's the solution.

Speaker 1: 24:05

We got to do the eight track or what, or we could record it into the wax tubes.

Speaker 2: 24:09

A reel to reel, you know the wax cylinder? Yeah, like a wax cylinder, the male Old school.

Speaker 1: 24:14

Eight track has a little more cache, though I think eight track is cool A reel to reel.

Speaker 2: 24:18

We could put it on a VHS tape. We could. There's a few options Cassette tape. I have none of these technologies anymore. If I received a VHS tape, I would. What would you do with it? I?

Speaker 1: 24:27

would be scared that it would be like a snuff film or something. I would not want to watch it. I'd be like this is the ring. I'm going to die if I watch this.

Speaker 2: 24:35

We could press it on vinyl. I don't think that I mean. That's all, then that?

Speaker 1: 24:38

would be. People would be like whatever, of course, they probably get vinyls all the time.

Speaker 2: 24:41

Of artists, oh music, they name them vinyls, yeah.

Speaker 1: 24:43

But when do they get eight tracks? When do they get vinyls of a podcast?

Speaker 2: 24:47

Oh, we should release vinyl episodes of our podcast 30 minutes into the podcast, you got to flip the record over so that you can hear the second part of the episode.

Speaker 1: 24:56

All right, thanks everybody for listening. I like it.

Speaker 2: 25:00

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So you better keep that neck on your hands, mind your bees and cues, because that scruff is going to get shaped.

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We're right on All right. Thanks everybody. Come back next week.

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Thanks for joining, bye, bye, bye.