Adam Braus  0:01  
Okay, I have some that we can start with here. Okay. New opinions are always suspected, and usually opposed without any other reason, but that they are not already common. That was John Locke, we reject the new things. Yeah, just new things are spooky. I do that. Yeah,

Scot Maupin  0:19  
I like I like doing what I know.

Adam Braus  0:21  
Me do. I mean, we're all like this. It's like hardwired where human beings are primates, right? If something new comes along, it's like suspect. It's like stranger danger, you know. But that's kind of interesting. Because, you know, for the past 300 years of human history, we've had like, rapid, massive change societal, religious, technological, like, every possible way.

Scot Maupin  0:43  
Yeah. If you are a person who refuses to adopt new things in this day and age, you You're, you're probably Yeah, yeah, problems quick.

Adam Braus  0:51  
Yeah. You're living a lifestyle. But it's cool. Because like, you know, that's what this podcast is all about. It's kind of like living on the other side of that. It's like every episode is something that actually might make you feel maybe a little uncomfortable if it's new. So, good luck everyone. Listening

Scot Maupin  1:07  
podcasting. You too. discomfort? Yeah,

Adam Braus  1:09  
do not introduce.

So, okay, today's episode, we're going to take a hard left from what we're talking about right now. Okay. Okay. I'm gonna screw up all the language, lingo, lingo and Lango. And everything is off to a

Scot Maupin  1:27  
good start. Yeah.

Adam Braus  1:31  
But I don't want to offend anyone, because the whole point about this idea is actually empowerment of a minority group, which is the the LGBTQ community. So I lovingly call this idea gay University. Gay University. Yeah, or historically gay University. hgu. Okay. Okay. So, right after the Civil War, they started HBCUs historically, black universities HBCUs, historically, black university colleges and university, yes. Okay. And now there's, I think about a dozen or 15 of those 16 of those. And they're awesome, super cool. I was just on the phone actually, with or had a meeting with the chief of innovation at the Thurgood Marshall Fund, okay, which they were supposed to be on the previous episode about ensuring student debt, he's super interested in that idea. We're gonna keep pursuing that. So more updates to come if we can't do anything with that. But anyways, I was thinking about HBCUs, and how cool they are and how great they are for that the for the black community. And I was like, you know, it's weird. We don't have, you know, LGBTQ community is, you know, at least 10% of the population is LGBTQ that's been known for a long time, just biologically. And probably it's maybe more than that. Now that there's real acceptance, you know, it might be more like 20 year, who knows how much percent? Who knows? Right? There's a huge spectrum, right. So, you know, why not have HGC? Us? Right? Why not have colleges and universities that are openly like, yeah, we are literally built to support this community, and provide educations and do scholarship and do research all, you know, for us by us. Yeah. And that community? Yeah,

Scot Maupin  3:11  
you have a safe space where you're not worried about the judgment situation that might be in other places that you know, you can relax for it. Yeah,

Adam Braus  3:19  
yeah. It doesn't matter what college campus, you're on your minority. If you're an LGBTQ person, wouldn't it be great to go to college where you're not a minority, like where you, you know, or like, and obviously, you can't bar anyone from going to college, just like, legally even the HBCUs can't bar a white person or an Indian person or something who wanted to go there. But you know, just by just by convention, people are like, okay, cool. That's, that's your guy's thing. You can you know, freedom to associate. I mean, I have a few friends. I have a friend who went to Howard's I've done, like partnerships with with other HBCUs

Scot Maupin  3:54  
for Howard is the most prominent name that comes to mind.

Adam Braus  3:57  
It's kind of the Ivy League. Yeah. But I mean, they all are, you know, they're great. They're great universities, you know, you can learn a lot in any of them.

Scot Maupin  4:03  
So would this be changing an existing university into an H GCU? Or would it be establishing a new

Adam Braus  4:11  
establish, to establish new universities? I don't think we should just establish one. And I think we should start 12 Why 12? Well, there's, you know, a huge part of the population is LGBTQ, huge 10 20% of the population, you know, so that's, I mean, 40 million, that's like 60 million people. Okay, so you think you're just not one college for 60 million people? It's just too small. You need at least 1010 would be 6 million people. Obviously, not everyone's you know, 18 to 35. Like education. Most the age people most get education. Well, if

Scot Maupin  4:44  
you have 60 million students enrolled, you probably get maybe 45 or 50 that go to class every day. So you could probably handle it as a couple.

Adam Braus  4:54  
You know, what's the attendance policy?

Scot Maupin  4:57  
You shouldn't go by mine. It was not mine. was on a sliding scale that vary greatly depending on how early the class started, like, later classes, oh, my attendance was much better stern 8am classes. Turns out

Adam Braus  5:10  
we were different Scott. I was a huge nerd. Like, Doctor, what do you call it? When you actually you said do your schoolwork you said was I still? Just horrible? Just literally like the worst. I was totally the worst in college did everything I would do the readings twice. Okay, literally do the readings twice. People would be like, ah and that yeah, it was bad.

Scot Maupin  5:35  
You're that guy with someone who has a really insightful thing. And you're like, Yeah, I thought that too on my first read through. Oh, my second read through, I figured out I don't think I ever

Adam Braus  5:45  
said something that bad. But I wouldn't be like, well on the you know, I would know, like, it would be like encyclopedic. I'd be like on the last page of the second paragraph blah blah blah. Like right there. It says this thing Didn't you notice that and people be like, No, of course I didn't notice that. Oh, given this before class started

Scot Maupin  6:00  
you would have been in Goodwill Hunting you're the you're the guy that how do you like them apples guy that you're that guy is likely to tell you about the reading I did.

Adam Braus  6:09  
But yeah, so HGC us so yeah, you'd start a new university. So I know how to do that. Because I'm I've been doing this but you know, I'm not really you know, everyone's you know, whatever has a sexuality. I

Scot Maupin  6:21  
don't want LGBTQ Don't be straight and playing. Yeah, I'm

Adam Braus  6:23  
just straight. I don't want to tell anyone. Oh, I'm starting a you know, gay college LGBT college people think I'm I don't know what they'll think. So that's why I bring into this podcast, anyone listening? Who may think that that's their role or their destiny to do something like that? I would love to talk to them. I would be happy to help. I will provide all the help in the world for this idea. Because I think I think it's a slam dunk.

Scot Maupin  6:48  
Our audience could contain several future Chancellor's of Hg salutely that just happen

Adam Braus  6:55  
to happen yet. Yeah. meltable. And we have 12 of them. We need 12 Chancellor's? That's a lot. Yeah. Also Chancellor. So the here's some, here's some reasons why this would work really well. One is Did you know that if you took gay men as its own group, now say it made its own nation, okay. It would be the most educated nation in the world. Gay men are enormously educated, okay, they all will have a very high rate of going to college and then they have a very high rate of getting advanced degrees. I don't know why. But anyways, that's just a fact. Which means if you start colleges that say, come here, this is built directly for your you know, identity, actually, for your, you know, group, you're, you're kind of what's it called? Affinity, you know, group, come here, you're gonna get just, like, overloaded with applicants, because people are gonna get it. The other thing is, it's going to be so great to like, get the funding you need to start this college. You have one fundraiser in the Castro. You're gonna be flush flush, you're gonna have all the money you need. You can build the board for this college, Elton John will join you know, who knows? Like, like, who knows that you can get your illustrious, illustrious LGBTQ people to join the one be the first

Scot Maupin  8:12  
like the the fight groundbreaking.

Adam Braus  8:15  
Right? You can find the best, you know, Pete Buttigieg. You know, once he's finished with his foray into politics,

Scot Maupin  8:21  
it's not Secretary of Transportation. Very busy man.

Adam Braus  8:24  
I mean, he may not want to do something like this, but you know, illustrious, maybe his his husband might want to do you know, you get you know, you get illustrious LGBTQ people to come and join the board. They then again, double down help the fundraising Peter Thiel may be although he famously doesn't like to be outed. But still, he has lots of money and he cares about education. He created the teal fellows, you know, he might want to be involved. I don't know.

Scot Maupin  8:48  
Apparently, I didn't know this fact that gay men were so educated on a hole. And so imagine if you're an uneducated gay man, you must feel like extra like, oh, no, I need I need I wish I could find you know, like a historically gay college or university to get my education at right boom, you're helping out that sector get up to the level to be like, Oh, you're not college educated? That's not come

Adam Braus  9:07  
on in your How are you going to get dates? You're the minority. You're in the minority, the minority that hurts. That hurts. Yeah, you gotta get up there.

Scot Maupin  9:16  
Gotta get your human statue degree and yours. Oh, wait, no, that's

Adam Braus  9:21  
that two sticks, where it's a very human stats you. That's the other university that's starting.

Scot Maupin  9:28  
Okay. So starting a university, I have definitely not done that you have. So what kinds of things are the are the biggest, like roadblocks that you have to figure out? Is it Is it money? Or is it regulations? Or is it

Adam Braus  9:42  
what's going as as you have the money, the regulations get a lot easier?

Scot Maupin  9:47  
Historically seems correct. Yeah.

Adam Braus  9:50  
So the cool thing about this, so if you want to start a university, so here's the bottom line, if you want to start a university, and it's just a cookie cutter exactly the same as any other university. It's doable. It just costs about $20 million. But the guy but but the but the LG loft 20 mil Yeah, but the LGBT community has an a reason to do it. You know, if you just go and say, hey, you know, you know rich person or investor or something like, give me $20 million to start university and they say, Oh, well what's different in new about this university and you say nothing, because if we did anything different or new, we would never get accredited. So we're just doing a cookie cutter, they'd say, Well, why No, I'm just gonna give $20 million to like Penn State, right? Because they're already doing it. And they're doing, you know, the 30 Establish? Yeah, so so. So it's hard to say I'm doing something new, because you won't get accredited. But that's actually what money wants, you know, they want you to be doing like innovative stuff. But with this case, you can be like no academically, are just gonna do exactly the same as everybody else, we're just gonna keep our heads down and like, keep our noses clean.

Scot Maupin  10:47  
We're focusing on a different Yeah,

Adam Braus  10:49  
different is weren't weren't HGC, you were the first ever, you know, historically gay restore, or you can HL BD TQ you are. So I don't know how they, you know, I'm not in charge of anything. And, but I'm just saying, I'll let the nomenclature go to the people who are in charge of this whole movement, but I'm just throwing an idea into the hopper here. You know, and we'll just call them HBCUs. Because it's easy way to talk about it. So you know, you go to an investor or non investor, because it's all should be nonprofits. But you know, you go to donors, and you say, we are new. And the way we're new is we're serving this affinity group, you know, and you maybe even you're part of this affinity group. And so you want to, you know, help or whatever. And so then that means the regulatory sides easy, because if you just show up and say, you know, we have these 20 majors, you know, and we are doing, you know, books and semesters, and they'll say, okay, cool. And then they'll just put you in this like, holding cell for like, eight years, and then you'll get it like, you'll get it. And I think the you'll just have to hold tight, it just had to hang you have to not disintegrate in eight years, where they that's why it cost $20 million. It's because you have to operate, you have to get students and also, you have to have students who are going to school there, which again, is a catch 22 Why would someone go to school that wasn't accredited? They wouldn't unless it's an HBCU. And they feel this incredible. They're like, the initial field is safety and comfort. And they're, they're proud of being the first class. So then you can run students through without an accredited degree, for a for that for a year holding period that the accreditors do. So you would actually be able to achieve this like, and I think you'd get go way faster than a traditional school. Because you can say, basically, you have to accredit us because if you don't, it's clearly prejudice against our group.

Scot Maupin  12:26  
Ah, right. Yeah, you could try it. It was a little bit of a put a little leverage. You don't know you a Oh, you wouldn't want to not accredit us. Like you wouldn't? Yeah, you

Adam Braus  12:35  
don't have to say anything, but it's going it's going to be the 900 pound gorilla in the room in every conversation is like, you can't really turn us down, like, as long as we check every box. And we're not egregiously like, I don't know, whatever doing that not to, oh, we don't do any classes, or we don't teach anything, okay, then no, but if you say, Yeah, we have classes, and we teach, you know, and we keep track of things, and we have an LMS. And we, you know, learning management system. So yeah, this is a cool thing, not just because like, oh, you know, whatever, you know, this should be a thing, because I think it should just clearly be a thing, just on its own. Sure. But I think there's something more to it too, as a form of activism. You know, so the LGBTQ community has done a amazing job. And I have to just like, applaud, I just love the activism of the LGBTQ community. I think every other movement on the country should just be studying what this community has done, because they went from being like, it's illegal, and you can go to jail, and everyone hates you, like 70 years ago to like, some of our most beloved figures are LGBTQ openly and like, talk about it and joke about it. Yeah, it's, you know, and that that's amazing. I can do that in 70 years. It's incredible.

Scot Maupin  13:48  
It was doubt. I mean, when I was a kid, it was not an open totally thing. It was very few people were gay and out. And it was like a thing. It was like, oh, but it was just, I mean, the acceptance is leaps and bounds better today. But no, you have today

Adam Braus  14:04  
Republicans who are willing to say not all I mean, we're going to talk about this too, because there's this other side of it. But I mean, there's a lot of Republicans who are like, terrified to say anything against gay people, and who many of them, you know, actually in their hearts are like, Yeah, of course, love whoever you want, you know, but But I mean, you have a bunch of them that are terrified, and these people are not terrified of anything. They'll go up and say, you know, they'll go up and say, Yeah, we should give out ar 47. You know, Aaron, it seems to teenagers like they don't they're not scared of that. But they're scared as hell to say like, oh, I don't you know, I don't know it's

Scot Maupin  14:35  
reflecting the public like the you know, the way the public feels where if you can't, if you say like bad stuff, and you get a bad reaction from the public very general. They're like, we don't we don't feel that way. We don't care about that. We're kind of over this. Yeah. Then you kind of like I guess it's not a button I could push anymore. I'll move on.

Adam Braus  14:53  
Yeah, democracy there. Yeah. So this is so they so the LGBT community has done an amazing job and the The piazza resistance, you know, the the cherry on top of the sundae is legalized gay marriage. I mean, it's amazing. Just like, I mean, I just like, especially like, I think. I mean, I tried, I tried to understand it really, like from their perspective, but I if I put myself in their perspective, I think, Wow, this is like a huge deal. Yeah, like gaining the right to marry. I mean, people, it's like the Nelson Mandela quote, like, everything's impossible until it's done. Like people don't understand. When I was 18. You know, 20 years ago, the idea of gay marriage being universal, like, okay, maybe like California would have it or something. But the fact that it would be universal United States was an impossibility, right. And then it was done. And it's like, amazing. I like, I think that's so cool. I remember the day I was in Madison, Wisconsin, and Wisconsin legalized gay marriage, and a bunch of the gay people were worried that it would be reversed, like the next day by like court proceedings. So they all like went down to the city count City Hall, and there was like, lightning marriages happening. And like, I went down and watched like, 40 couples get married in like, an hour. And it was so inspiring. It was like history being made. It was like seeing, you know, whatever, you know, fill in the blank civil rights being accomplished. I mean, it was really, really, really cool.

Scot Maupin  16:13  
Yeah, I mean, imagine wanting to do something and just not anything, just like I want to do the normal thing other people can do for so long, and you're blocked. And then finally, that block moves out of the way. It's like that feeling has got to be ah, and also the urgency to be like, while this windows open before to get this done,

Adam Braus  16:32  
and I mean, you and I, I mean, obviously we're like, like, straight guys and whatever. So we just like it's like we take it for granted. We have the wind at our back. Yeah, so we don't feel it. But but we have you know, but obviously, the the exciting thing for me is to help everyone achieve liberation. Everyone achieve, you know, the thing. So here's the thing. Now all that activism, where do you go with it? Okay, you got to do gay marriage, what do you do next? There isn't really much to do. I mean, okay, gay president. I mean, in fact, kind of was the big push, maybe with Buttigieg. And there's a lot of people supporting him for them. Okay. But that's kind of performative anyways, because presidents just like murder children with drones and stuff. Like, it doesn't actually I mean, President. Yeah, they're gonna still be an American president, no matter what color of skin or, or you know, whatever religion, they are something, you're still the head of this yellow machine is a horrible country with like this huge. Yep. So what if that energy went into founding 12 colleges and universities, that could be really interesting, that would create a incredibly powerful in imperturbable on erasable institutional footing for that community? In our culture? You know, yeah, it's interesting notes. And,

Scot Maupin  17:43  
I mean, you also hear about the, the discrimination and the terrible things that happen to people at like, especially in places where it's not as open to be gay, or it's not as easy to be queer, and in those places in colleges, and people have some tough times, and really terrible things. And to be able to, like the way someone who is in the Midwest and a small town and goes, I want to go to California for school, or I want to do this and change my life the same way. It gives somebody an option to be like, Look, when I get out when I get free, I'm going there. That's my Mecca, you know, like, that's gonna be a place where I can finally flower be free not have to worry about all these attacks from all these people who are just not accepting of what what I,

Adam Braus  18:29  
you know, I mean, just think about, like, teenage suicide among the LGBT community. It's an elevated number. I don't know what the number is, but I know it's an olive is huge in the trans community, for sure, yeah. Huge in the trans community, but also, you know, all across anyone feeling like they're not, you know, they're not part of getting picked up. Yeah. criminate Yeah. So imagine if those kids you know, you're 14 years old, you're 16 years old, you might have some, like, glimmer of an idea of like, okay, when I'm done with high school, I'll go to college. And maybe it'll be better. And so you have this sort of glimmer, but if you knew, I'm going to, you know, this, I know that, you know, 98% of the people there are going to be either LGBTQ or allies really. 100% are going to be one or the other, you know, but most people will probably be LGBTQ of some, you know, the teachers might not be some of them, you know, might be straight, but allies obviously, they wouldn't work right at HEC, you if they didn't think you know, that they were going to be an ally. And that's just got to be like the biggest lifeline and to think and this is why I say not one because if you say one, then it's like this one thing to start 12 Seriously to start 12 Have them be sprinkled all over the country put them right in the south put them right in the Midwest, put them right in places where traditionally it's like oh, that's not okay to be gay, like put an HBCU in that like not maybe not in that community but Right. Right. The town of that city Yeah, it in there in the middle of wherever you think, you know, there's the most vitriol you know, Alabama or so. I don't know. I'm just sort of

Scot Maupin  19:58  
at least accepting play. So you're gonna have people who need they need to gape them.

Adam Braus  20:02  
Exactly. So put one in there. And now that organization can own a land, right? It can own buildings. It can like own. I mean, this

Scot Maupin  20:11  
is where it's like foundation and they start to build wealth. Because what are they?

Adam Braus  20:15  
What does the LBGT community have? Sure they have, they have huge power in the media, which is great. They have huge, they're gaining power in politics, great. They have, you know, they have this kind of cultural, you know, power. But I don't really see like, I don't really see like that real footprint of like, you can go to a place and literally the bill, you have it in the Castro, you go to the Castro, you're like every building here is owned by like an LGBTQ. There's greater low crosswalks like and you feel like, wow, this is a great energy. This is really cool. I would love to have 12 of those as college campuses all over the country. And you could have continuing education for adults. So it wouldn't have to just be oh, you know, 18 to 22 year olds, it could be this thing where, you know, it's it's uplifting that community everywhere with education. Yeah. I love it. I love this. That's a great idea. As soon as I had the idea, I like went off the wall with how cool it is. It's so cool. Yeah, yeah, I would start it. But again, I don't feel like I'm the person you're not the voice. But I'd love to help someone started. I would love you as

Scot Maupin  21:19  
a person who has started universities recently are a great resource for someone hearing this who's like that. Just tell them Yeah, and you're you're very, you're like, look, I have a podcast talking about things is a thing. You don't have to really convince me that hard to do. Do it. I do it all already on purpose.

Adam Braus  21:35  
Yeah, I mean, I just bring I'll just brain dump tell you like the exactly, literally exactly what you needed. Like, exactly. So

Scot Maupin  21:45  
I like also having 12 Go up. I don't mean to focus on negative stuff. Not sure. But like having 12 goes up, means if one goes up, the resistance against it is very focused in one spot surrounding that thing. If 12 Go up, it's like, Okay, we have to split our resistance into Oh, if we will, if we're the Westboro Baptist Church, now, we have to make 12 different delegations to go out and be terrified people protest, it causes. It's, it's the same way it has to use more research sources to start these 12 places, you'd have to use more resources to form these 12 places at once. So that I feel like that gives them a better chance of longevity, you know, like you were saying,

Adam Braus  22:27  
it's there's also someone said something really crazy. I think it was wasn't it was Nathan, on the last episode. He said, every single Supreme Court Justice went to either Harvard or Yale Law School. That wasn't a so the question is, do does the President appoint Supreme Court justices? Or does the admissions office of Harvard and Yale Law School appoint right? Supreme Court justices? Well, if you want a LGBTQ Supreme Court Justice, you can go to Yale or Harvard, that's fine. I mean, and there's plenty of people going there. But you know, it's it's just interesting to think about how power flows through these cognitive institutions. And and if you started maybe 12, H, HP HGC. Us, and maybe one of them was like Howard's and it was kind of like an Ivy League One or something, like a better one. I mean, one of them's gonna be better, just by average, you should always try to, you know, strive for equity, strive to make them all good. But you know,

Scot Maupin  23:18  
they'll have different drinks and different focuses, but it might be one way. One might, one

Adam Braus  23:22  
might have a law school, and the other one might not. So now you have this H GCU. Law school. What if a Supreme Court justice went to that comes from there that one? Sure that would be interesting, you know what I mean? It's just, I think, yeah, there's just this. When you start when the idea gets in your head, it's like a little like, it, like starts to grow like

Scot Maupin  23:40  
blossoms out into many different directions where you could see it affecting positively right, and a lot of different ways, you know,

Adam Braus  23:46  
and think about the cool, I mean, especially when you look at Gen Z, there's all these cool kids now, who maybe aren't LGBTQ, really, and they're like, strictly in their identity, but they are just crazy, awesome allies. And they just think that's a cool way to live to just be a community where love is love, and anyone can love whoever they want. Yeah, and those people will go to these colleges to like, they don't have to be, you know, I don't know some identity or something. It's great

Scot Maupin  24:12  
and refreshing to talk to a young person who just like, they don't understand why you would discriminate against gay people. And they're like, why even what why put any energy? Like what are you talking about? That's ramp like you I like, all right, man, but I love that so refreshing to see it just to be so not a thing. You know, so

Adam Braus  24:32  
cool. Well, that's where we gotta get to and that's where really and that's where if you go to like an actual university, where there's no, I mean, talk about like, it's just crazy. Like, what what would be possible on these campuses? Like what would be going I mean, it would just be a completely civilization,

Scot Maupin  24:50  
and the graduation ceremonies would be way better.

Adam Braus  24:53  
Imagine the robes that these if you like a catwalk I'm just saying we're gonna just be scared to not doing we're horribly offensive, everybody's gonna be offended everybody cut that cut back.

Scot Maupin  25:10  
And it's not common, but when you go into predominantly queer spaces, there's a different vibe

Adam Braus  25:15  
for this course. It's like, Yeah, I'll take culturalism that's the benefit of living in a multicultural country, is you get to enjoy all those different spaces. It's so awesome. Like, do I want to just live in a country where everywhere I go is like mashed potatoes and corned beef? No, I want or mashed potatoes.

Scot Maupin  25:33  
If everywhere I go as mashed potatoes, I might, I might jump into there, you ought

Adam Braus  25:38  
to be in that country. Okay. That's the south. But I mean, you know, if it's blamed, but born seems even if it's a good thing, if it's everywhere, I'm just exhausted, right? So bored with that.

Scot Maupin  25:50  
We are human, we humans are novelty creatures, right? We'd like different stuff.

Adam Braus  25:54  
You know, like, would we have? Would we have like a would we have like a vaccine for HIV already, if we had had 12 research universities that were all, ah, you know, HGC us put, like, that'd be a lot more, a lot more focused on that, you're

Scot Maupin  26:11  
definitely going to have more people in the room who are like, hey, this might be an important thing to look at, you know, right. It affects it affects our community, and

Adam Braus  26:18  
much less and the same thing for like politics, right. So like, you know, anytime some, like some, like, right wing or libertarian person wants to make some claim, they cite like, like a think tank that that, you know, is wrote some white paper, you know, that supports what they said, and it's all BS, when you go in secret, you know, you go and look at it, but they have this like citation, and it lets them then speak and stand up and say, Hey, there's this sort of research that happened, you know, what if there was 12, research universities, all that the researchers were like, actually, we have other data, you know, to show you, you know, and

Scot Maupin  26:53  
what a what a counterpoint to today's time where it is really there are places where they are literally trying to erase gay and trans people from the education space completely, you know, in Florida and other places where we're going through the library, we're removing anything that even has a whiff of non heterosexual you're like, right, like, we're, we don't want this to exist, like, in a time when it's being erased from certain spaces when you're like, it's 2023. How are you trying to go backward? I mean, they are they are and establishing permanent, like, institutions that are there and going to be there and go forward and be strong, like, units. That's, that would be huge. It'd be maybe it'd be counteracting that sort of impulse,

Adam Braus  27:37  
amazingly power, like the power. I can't think of a more powerful thing for the LGBTQ community do then to found at least one of these. And I would do at least four, because like you said, to kind of, kind of make it regional or you know, but I think 12 would be even better. I mean, it's not like there's a shortage of LGBTQ educated LGBTQ country. 12 is Yeah, even Well, well, yeah. Yeah, but I mean, at least four or five, but even that sounds like crate the towel can do at least 10. You know, I mean, seriously, you know, you could put you could put at least two of them in San Francisco, you know, you could have one in Oakland, one in San Francisco. No problem. You know, they'd be full up the next you know, the first year they'd be oversubscribed. I mean, there's no, I mean, in my mind, there's no question there would be oversubscribed. Also, the oldest the other angle here. This would be a media

Scot Maupin  28:26  
explosion. People there would be non story.

Adam Braus  28:31  
MSNBC Fox would come out again, obviously against it. You know,

Scot Maupin  28:35  
can you believe houses happen? Yeah.

Adam Braus  28:37  
But can you imagine the amount of immediate overnight awareness? It would be like turning on a light switch? Yeah. All of Americans would know about it instantly. Well, it

Scot Maupin  28:46  
would definitely yeah, it would. The news cycle would do it up and stick with it. The other

Adam Braus  28:50  
thing that might be an interesting Hi, this is a new a part of this, you know, being gay. I was once in Europe, and I was like, oh, Europeans, you guys are so great. You know, universal health care, like you have so many things figured out. And they do LGBTQ stuff. Well now too. But one, this European guy said to me, he said, you know, you're right. You're right. I met your upgrade. And we got a lot of things worked out. But you know, Americans really lead on LGBT PDQ stuff. And I was like, dang, that really like that really, like hit my heart. Like I was like, wow, we should really be proud of that. Like, that's really cool. And you know what the cool thing about universities is in America, what's that? If you get accepted to one, you can get an f1 visa student visa to come to America. Which means these universities could literally import brain drain all the LGBTQ people out of the countries where it's like illegal to

Scot Maupin  29:46  
be gay. Yeah, I was like and also make way safer life. Yeah, exactly.

Adam Braus  29:50  
And import them into America. Drive the Republicans off the wall.

Scot Maupin  29:59  
There please This is where it's just not we take for granted, even though it is still a difficult road here my understanding to it's yeah, it's there are places where it is impossible, right? Yeah.

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