Video Version And Quick Hello

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Hey, it's Scott. Just popping in to let you know that this episode also has a video version that's available on YouTube, which is not a thing we've done often, but it's a thing we're gonna start doing uh going forward. So if you want to check us out and see what we look like while we talk, go over to YouTube and check out our channel at Solutions from the Multiverse. Or if you just want the audio, stay right here and it's coming up now. Today's date is six two six two six.

SPEAKER_00 0:26

I thought it was uh six seven. Is that already gone? I think adults killed it. Yeah, I think adults fully killed that.

SPEAKER_02 0:35

Uh my child has no interest anymore in the when it is. It's like it never it's like it never happened.

SPEAKER_00 0:41

I thought that was impressive how absurd it was.

SPEAKER_02 0:44

Well, because of that, I think is how adults were able to get in on it so easy because a lot of kids' stuff is impenetrable. You're like, I can't understand the nuance or the reference, but when they're like, oh, it means nothing, adults are like, I can handle that. Let me let me let me run that straight to the ground.

SPEAKER_00 1:02

Yeah. I'm already a complete nihilist. I'll do anything anyone pays me. I'm a grown-up. I'm might as well have more nonsense in my life.

SPEAKER_02 1:11

That's fun, and I can easily understand the rules. Okay, I'll do it in ad infinitum.

SPEAKER_00 1:16

We have the solution today is a big it's I'm gonna do a bunch of them, but they're all related. Popcorn solutions are all sanitation health cure. I I'm gonna tell you the cure, the common cold, which I found out.

The Case For Handwashing Stations

SPEAKER_00 1:30

Nice, which people don't know. And we're gonna talk about hand washing sinks. Okay. Because families, I've learned because I just had a kid and I've been talking to other people who have kids. You just people are just like, yeah, you have kids, you're just gonna be sick all the time. And I was like, wait, wait, what? And they were like, Yeah, yeah, as soon as your kid goes to school, you're just sick all the time. And I was like, what? So we're gonna talk about all schools having hand washing sinks in them. That's the solution. And then we'll talk about the common cold. So we're gonna prevent colds with hand washing sinks and we're gonna cure it. And we're gonna cure the cold when you do get the cold, we'll get a cure. Soundgave. Nice.

SPEAKER_02 2:14

I like it, yeah. Wait, how do we sell this behind a Patreon paywall? This is not fine. Okay. Yeah, we'll give it away.

SPEAKER_00 2:22

Give it away, give it away. Let's just give it away. Anything for public health. So basically, I got this I I got this this love for hand washing sinks from two things. One was when I was at summer camp, they installed these hand washing sinks like right outside the kitchen. And before you could go, like often when you would just go in for lunch,

How To Design A Sink That Gets Used

SPEAKER_00 2:44

there was a big line of people washing their hands. It became a thing where people all wash their hands before they ate, and then you could wash your hands throughout the day as you walked by. And then there was other hand washing sinks around, but there was a specific hand washing like station, and it was awesome. It was just so great. I was like, this is great, this is such a fantastic thing.

SPEAKER_02 3:02

And then when I was well, you were saying hand washing sink, and I I was just I thought you were just talking about I was like, How is that different from a normal sink? So I thought you were just talking about sinks, but it's what you can't do on station.

SPEAKER_00 3:14

It's like the sink is like optimized for hand washing.

SPEAKER_02 3:18

There's like and this is not like a station outside of porta potties that I see at like an event or something where no, you would have this like it would be its own standalone thing.

SPEAKER_00 3:28

It would be in public, it's not in a bathroom where you have to exit the stream of the world to go wash your hands. It would be like its own thing, and it'd be near I'd put it near the lunchroom. And I'd put if you have a hundred of students, I'd put two or three or four, you know. And it's yeah, it's a sink with really good soap, like really good foamy soap, and it has plentiful paper towels, or like if you have like a Dyson, you know, hand air blower or whatever, but you know, you just do paper towels and a good garbage that gets taken out so that the garbage doesn't overflow it. You know, it has to be like a well-maintained hand washing station. Because if you put that, it's like you build a day will come. If you put that on the way to the lunchroom in a school, and you make it a norm, like you know, the little kids, you're like, wash your hands. And the bigger kids, it's like, did you wash your hands? Like you just kind of make it like a norm to be like washing your hands between you know, before lunch, after lunch, as you walk by, there's any time. Then you just get this culture of hand washing. And when you do that, you just reduce the load of disease enormously across uh you know the vectors of that school. People are rubbing their noses on their hands, opening doors and slapping high fives and shaking hands and you know, putting their hand around their girlfriend's shoulder and they're disgusting, gross.

SPEAKER_02 4:54

You're right. There are sinks like in every bathroom. And the idea is like you wash on the way out of the bathroom. No one does. I de that's I don't know that you don't want to admit that. I definitely use I wash my hands on the way I have bathrooms. Gilbert. I was gonna say the problem is that like that's like a you're like it's clean now, and then you go out into the world, and like before you eat something way later, you have countless things that you touch, right and play, you know, you scratch your nose and you touch shake a hand and touch a handrail and push an elevator button, and then you go to eat and you're like they it didn't it didn't stay. The the hand washing didn't hold from the bathroom time till now. So having like you were saying, having a station where you hit it again right before you eat, you get that, you know, you kill the germs right before the needed time. It seems much more sensible. I don't know, right?

SPEAKER_00 5:48

Not more sensible, maybe I mean I think ideally people are washing their hands after they go to the bathroom. I don't think a lot of people are doing that, not teenagers, not certainly not seven-year-olds.

SPEAKER_02 5:58

There are definitely a lot of people, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:00

Unless they're forced to, you know, by some process. But no, I think, you know, but if you have a public hand washing sink, it's also there's more social pressure. It's like if you see someone and all they do is they always walk by the hand washers and they never wash their hands, it's like wash your hands, like it's right there. But they leave the bathroom, you never see people in the bathroom because it's a private area, you know, it's just a private space. And and people are just in and out and you don't know what they exactly did in there, you know.

SPEAKER_02 6:26

Um laughing and giggling while they don't wash their hands.

SPEAKER_00 6:28

Sure, they're just smoking cigarettes and and you know, they're not even pooping, they're just smoking and and leaving. Um, but anyway, so yeah, public hand wash and things drive down the and then maybe that's not the only thing. Maybe like an epidemiologist or somebody really knew how like disease vectors worked inside of you know, schools, maybe they'd say, no, no, it's it's actually about like putting a coating onto door handles. So you, you know, because there's these antimicrobial things, or there's like antimicrobial lights that you can buy, and maybe you should just strategically put those lights in certain spots so that as people walk through the antimicrobial lights like kill whatever micro.

SPEAKER_02 7:08

I don't know what it would be, but that's let's just all those seem way more complicated than just wash your hands. Yeah, that the solution that saved whatever, like back when they figured out they're like, Oh yeah, it's uh wash your hands, doctors, and then all of a sudden babies will be healthy, and they're like, Oh, okay, yeah. You know, like that whole thing. But like doing it now, that is the easiest control, and it's cheap, it's safe. Oh, yeah. You're not like zapping people with lights, you're not counting.

SPEAKER_00 7:35

There's water, people at water fountains, which means there's a water hookup right there. You could just put it next to the water fountains, you know. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 7:41

And like you were saying, like we said in an earlier episode, change your environment, change your action because you're putting it in the you're putting it in the pathway. So I think just it becomes you're reducing friction of use, you're reducing the obstacle to using it, and I think you're gonna get mass adoption. Just that's human nature.

SPEAKER_00 8:00

I mean, it's like and I think also if you just reduce the viral load by 20%, you have this, it has a kind of geometric improvement. Because then you know, that many fewer people are getting sick, and then that many fewer people are getting more people sick. So it creates this kind of geometric shrink, even if you just do a kind of fractional improvement. So, you know, because in COVID, everyone was like, wear masks, and which actually kids never really even needed to wear masks because kids their breath doesn't go very far. This is actually like the science of masks, like like a grown man like little baby lungs,

COVID Lessons, Masks, And HVAC Tradeoffs

SPEAKER_00 8:39

yeah. Little baby when they breathe out, it's like this tiny puff of air and it just falls, you know, useless in the respiratory system. So, actually, little kids never needed maybe high schoolers when they're like fully grown, maybe they could have benefited from masks, but like grade schoolers never needed to wear masks. That was just stupid. I'm gonna jump on that grenade here. That was stupid to have kids under like 10 wear masks. That was never needed, and there's also there's bigger costs socially for them because those children children at that age are like really learning like social cues and they're they're building all kinds of important social interactions to have them and everyone around them's faces covered is not good for them for that. Yeah, so culture of hand washing, washing. Now there's no there's no mask in your face, there's no, you know.

SPEAKER_02 9:28

Bring it up.

SPEAKER_00 9:29

I got this idea because I was wondering because doctors, that's how doctors see sick people every day, all their patients are sick, and doctors like don't get sick very much. Like my parents are doctors, they never got sick from like their patients. And it was because they every time you see a doctor, what do they do right in front of you? They wash their hands, come in, wash their hands, yeah. And then before they leave, they wash their hands again. Same thing. It doesn't hurt them, they do it 40 times a day, 50 times a day. Doesn't hurt them. There's hand washing sinks in every doctor's office. I'm like, what the hell? Let you know, you could even do some doctor's office, the hand washing sinks have foot pedals, so you don't even touch, you're just I think in schools do that, put the foot pedal because then people don't like turn it on and leave it or play with the water, whatever, or accidentally forget. You you can't if you put your foot up, the water stops, you know. So it's a very easy like foot pedal operation thing, go, you know. I I just love that hand washing sinks. The other place that I saw hand washing sinks a lot that was awesome was Malaysia. Oh yeah, Malaysians are Muslim, yeah, and part of Muslim religion is like we always talk about how they pray five times a day or three times a day, depending on Sunni Shiite. But but actually part of the prayer is to do an abolution, like to clean like behind your neck and like your face, maybe, or your hands. That's part of the prayer. And so in Malaysia, they have a culture of hand washing sinks everywhere, everywhere. There's hand washing sinks in every restaurant, in the restaurant, not like in the bathroom, in the restaurant, near me near the bathrooms or near the kitchen, but it's right there. Hand washing sink. And everybody goes up and washes their hands before they eat, after they eat, you know, and I was like, God, this is just so civilized and so great for that to be. So why don't we have this in schools? Reduce the viral load.

SPEAKER_02 11:24

Well, I was gonna say the place I've seen hand washing sink or the hand washing stations is kind of the opposite. It's the most germ-filled, and that was when I went on a cruise ship for the first time. It was like they had they have people whenever you're going into those massive dining rooms, they have people at the station at the front with like hand sanitizer, hand wash, and like giving hand wash to every single person because they're like, we know this thing is a bacteria few, like a festival. We would like to wash hands before, like this is our stop gap measure at the before our eating experience. And it was like, oh, but it does make sense. It's like, yeah, of course, this is what you do to this is the easiest and fastest way to kind of prevent hot hand virus, hand yeah, bad hand stuff going into mouths because you're going into a place where everyone's going to be touching stuff and then putting it into their mouth, touching stuff, putting it in their mouth. So it's like, yeah, this is the time.

SPEAKER_00 12:20

Yeah. Yeah. So there you go. Cruises are already doing it. Makes sense. So let's do this in schools because I'm done. I'm not going to be sick all the time from my kid. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 12:30

I think that's but I'm like when I was in school, uh, when I was working in schools as an educator, I would be like kind of thought of that as a superpower because I'm like, oh, I'm exposed to all these like classes of kids. It's sort of like I have a I have the immune immune system of an ox now because I'm like constantly exposed to like whatever doesn't make you whatever doesn't make you stronger, whatever doesn't kill makes you stronger. Maybe maybe I was in Mr. Burns zone where I had all the diseases at once and they were just kind of in equilibrium, keeping fighting each other. Yeah, keeping keeping any any single disease from becoming dominant and affecting him.

SPEAKER_00 13:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:07

It's like they're in perfect balance.

SPEAKER_00 13:10

I don't know which is better if it's better to get sick like that. I don't think it is, because it's an it's an insult to your system, right, to get sick, you know.

SPEAKER_02 13:17

So But they do, I mean, they say it's not good to never expose yourself, right? So there's a there's a happy medium zone somewhere in there. But I think some exposure. Yeah, it's the regular life zone and not the like classrooms full of kids zone.

SPEAKER_00 13:32

I thought we would learn something from COVID, but we have learned nothing. We have learned nothing. It's crazy. It's crazy. I don't want to do like big impositions. Like again, I'm not for like masking in all schools or something. You know, I don't want to do things that are an imposition, but I do want to do things that aren't an imposition, that are an improvement, like a cost of like a quality of life improvement. Hand washing sinks. It's not a big expense, it's a capital improvement. So it's a one and done. You know, you build it once, you get a hand washing sink will last 25 years, you know, no problem. For longer, probably. So it's this like easy, good, high quality, you know, and it reduces this viral load that makes parents like if you announced if I was the head of like a grade school and I announced this, I feel like all the parents would do like a standing ovation. They'd be like, oh my god, yes, don't get it.

SPEAKER_02 14:28

I can't imagine anyone opposed, right?

SPEAKER_00 14:30

Yeah, right. So why are it's weird that we're not doing it. It's weird. Like we had a pandemic. We know about like viruses, people, especially like left-wing people, were like crazy about masking and everything, social distancing, and blah, they kept their schools closed for a year, two years. They're crazy, and then and then now it's all over. We don't do anything, we don't do anything to make any improvements. It's weird.

SPEAKER_02 14:54

Well, there was a big discussion about air quality and about like, did you guys realize that all the schools don't have the best HVAC systems? And it's kind of like yeah, I think if you think about it, that makes sense. So there's talk about redoing all the HVAC systems, which is an enormous expense for every school district, but right installing small water hand washing stations.

SPEAKER_00 15:15

Well, they should do HVAC too. That's smart. The HVAC really is good too. It's a big expense, but it's a capital expenditure. You probably have to do that.

SPEAKER_02 15:22

But while we're in the midst of making stuff and leveling up things, this is a small change that could just be like, oh, put this in the mix. Put the, you know, we're we're making our schools hopefully pandemic safe for the next round. If if and when the next thing happens, then let's have a better spot, right?

SPEAKER_00 15:39

We're just every every fall. I mean, every flu season, there's a 0.1% mortality rate. COVID was only a 0.3% mortality rate. Right? So two and a half years of flu is equal to one COVID epidemic, and yet we don't treat it like we should actually be like making improvements. It's very strange. It's very strange. Anyway, so hand washing sinks, solution number one. Okay, I've been seeing these stupid ads that people are trying to convince people they have dandruff. Have you seen dandruff ads?

SPEAKER_02 16:13

I have not seen the dandruff.

SPEAKER_00 16:14

There's so many dandruff ads on like Instagram and like on TV too. Convincing people that they people are like, you have dandruff, and it's like white powder

Dandruff Ads And Scalp Scratching

SPEAKER_00 16:23

on their shoulder, you have dandruff. I just want to tell everyone you do not have to be selling a thing, or is it just a channel? Yeah, they're always selling a thing, it's always some chemical. It's not just you have dandruff. Anyway, back to your back to your streaming back to yeah, back to Hulu, you know, whatever. I just want to tell everyone you don't have dandruff, but I think the problem with people is they they've never been taught how to clean their head. Which is if you have a human head, which I'm assuming. I do, I do, you do, you do, you do. I'm looking at it right now.

SPEAKER_02 16:58

Actually, I have a few in the refrigerator.

SPEAKER_00 17:03

If you have a human head. If you have a human head, then the way to clean your human head is to put your fingernails, like your fingers, like your fingernails, and scratch your head all over while you're in the shower. Like real monkeys. Most people don't do that. Most people they take the shampoo in their hands like this, and they kind of go like this, and then they rinse it out and they think, I cleaned my head. You have not cleaned your head. A human head has dead skin all over it because that's how the skin works. It grows out from the middle. Makes sense, and the edge becomes dead. Well, that powder on your shoulder is just because you didn't go like this with your fingernails all over your head, and then let that rinse out. Then all that would just go down the drain and you wouldn't have that. You do not have dandruff. I don't think uh dandruff is like it's like a special thing. It's like very, very few people ever in their whole life.

SPEAKER_02 18:06

Right. But few and far between your sand.

SPEAKER_00 18:08

Oh, I I have head and shoulder shampoo every day. I always use head and shoulder shampoo because I have dandruff. No, you do not. You just are not scratching your scalp. You need to scratch all the dead skin off your scalp. It sounds gross, but guess what? So then what is the doing head shampoo too?

SPEAKER_02 18:25

Is it just like getting under there and gluing all those things back down to your skin?

SPEAKER_00 18:30

No, it's not doing anything. It's not doing anything. I remember when I was a teenager, we had this head and shoulders shampoo all the time because we had this powder on our shoulders and we were like, What is it? Oh, use it. It didn't do anything.

SPEAKER_02 18:42

And then it's because people didn't know how to wash their hair.

SPEAKER_00 18:45

Right. And then we just figured out. My mom was like, Are you guys like, you know, she's we were teenagers, she wasn't like seeing us in the shower. So eventually my mom asked us, like, are you guys scratching your scalps? And then we were like, No, no, we just go like this and go like this and then wash it off.

SPEAKER_02 19:00

Squid kind of squish the hair around. Yeah, yeah. Get it all sudsy. Yeah. That's the juice.

SPEAKER_00 19:05

No, you need to like really work it in and just fingernails, get the fingernails. It actually cleans your fingernails too. Because the hairs go underneath your fingernails and clean out underneath your fingernails. So you're deputing fingernails, your hair, your scalp all at once.

SPEAKER_02 19:19

Yeah, it probably pulls out hair. You didn't get rid of, you know, like deflock your hair if you're shedding hair.

SPEAKER_00 19:25

So now I'm gonna say a thing that's gonna make me lose my credibility, but I think it's that's not the cure for the common cold one. No, that's coming, that's coming next. This is another shampoo. I was hoping I just had to scratch my head more. So, do you see my hair? How does it happen? I do see your hair. It's very, very flake-free. It looks good. Guess what? I haven't used shampoo in two weeks. Okay. No poo. Wait. It turns out the human head.

SPEAKER_02 19:51

Wait, we need to rebrand that. It's called no poo. That's what it's called.

SPEAKER_00 19:55

That's what it's called. If you Google it. Wait, you're using the solution from the multiverse. Yeah. This is not a solution from the multiverse because this is a known thing. If you if you search, you can learn about it. It's called no poo. It turns out your head, human head also does not need shampoo. But you don't need it.

SPEAKER_02 20:11

But Adam, if you if you go up to someone and you gesture to your head and you just say with a big smile on your face, no poo.

SPEAKER_00 20:18

No poo.

SPEAKER_02 20:19

They're gonna they're gonna think you need some sort of assistance. Like this is like that is not a normal hair. No poo here. Hey, did you see? Did you see? No poop. No poo. They're gonna be like, okay, buddy, no poop in your hair. Is that a hard status for you to achieve usually?

SPEAKER_00 20:35

No poo. But yeah, so no poo, not necessary to use shampoo. People will say, but then my hair gets all oily. Turns out that's just for the first like three or four days. Your body is overproducing oils because you've been shampooing, the shampoo strips all the oils off your scalp and hair. And then your body's like, no, we want oil on our scalp and hair. So it overproduces oil. But if you just go in the shower and scratch and rinse out your hair and then get out and dry it off, and then you do that for like, you know, and then you don't use shampoo for like four or five days, your amount of oil actually just comes down to normal, and now your hair is great. And actually, it's healthier than shampoo because shampoo strips all those oils out and your hair gets really wiry. It gets like all wiry because it has no oil in it. If you afford that, we should have it. If you have longer hair, you can actually you kind of work your scalp and you let the water run, and the oil gets down to the tip of your hair, and the hair stays really healthy because it gets that oil all the way down to the tip of it. Anyways, so you don't have dandruff and you don't need dandruff shampoo. You just know how to need to learn how to scratch your scalp in the shower. That's the human the human head to clean the human head. Okay, should we should we do the big one? The the cure of the common cold? I'm ready now. Now that you I've got the cure. It's not me. This is Is evidence-based research that you can you can look up. I I should be it's a little facetious to say it's the cure because if you do these things, you won't be cured immediately. But the science suggests that you'll

How To Cut A Cold In Half

SPEAKER_00 22:11

go from a seven to ten day cold to a three to five day cold. So it'll cut your cold in half.

SPEAKER_02 22:18

Okay. Can I can I guess or you can try to guess, sure. What do you think? Here's the old the old ones they always say zinc.

SPEAKER_00 22:26

Yes, zinc is a big one, but you have to do the right kind of zinc.

SPEAKER_02 22:30

Oh, I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_00 22:32

So it turns out the science shows that if you if you get zinc that has other additives in it, uh especially if like people put things in it to make it taste better, then it doesn't work. It ruins it? So you need to buy the one that doesn't have, I think, I think a lot of them put the bad taste citric acid or s some kind of citric thing to make it taste citrusy. But it turns out that stops the zinc from having the effect of it. So you have to take the one that tastes kind of, I guess, just like chalk. It doesn't just taste like chalk, you know. And you do and you have to do that early on. All these you have to do early on.

SPEAKER_02 23:07

Sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:08

Zinc is right, yes.

SPEAKER_02 23:10

Okay. I'm out, I'm out. I I mean the other thing was be like orange juice. Yeah, chicken noodle soup. I think those are pretty funny.

SPEAKER_00 23:18

So orange juice, chicken noodle soup are good because hydration is important. Hydration and rest are important for recovery. Okay. But they won't really really shorten it. They'll just kind of make your immune system response better. You'll feel less crappy because you'll be giving your body what it needs to have like an immunal response. Orange juice is a fluid with an electrolyte sugar. Soup is a fluid with electrolyte salt. So it makes you hydrate better. So yeah, those will help. But they aren't the cures. So the other cure is gargling salt water. It's an old-fashioned one that's around the world, is a is a thing that that that that kind of traditional sort of wives tail medicine has said to do. Recent research has suggested that it absolutely works. The trick is you have to do it early on. So as soon as you start getting symptoms, as soon as you get that little scratch in your throat, you should be gargling salt water. The other thing is it needs to be hypertonic salt water. So it can't be isotonic. I'm gonna need both of them. I know we're gonna talk about explained. So isotonic means the same as your blood. So isotonic is the same amount of salt in it as your blood has, so it's neutral to your blood. Hypertonic is about three times more than that, so it's much more salty than your blood. The way you get uh hypertonic salt water is you take about a teaspoon of salt and put it into eight ounces of warm water. So that's the hypertonic.

SPEAKER_02 24:57

I was gonna ask if it had to be warm, but I guess that's to dissolve the salt.

SPEAKER_00 25:00

Warm's good to make it all dissolve. Yeah, if you put it in cold water, you might only dissolve half of it. Now you don't really have very hypertonic. You might have isotonic. Hypertonic's better because it's what you're doing is you're actually killing the viruses. This whole episode is about killing viruses, except for the dandruff. But the the the the the hand washing sinks, lowering the viral load of the school, salt water gargling, zinc, lowering the viral load of your throat.

SPEAKER_02 25:25

If you like if you make something that salty and then you're gargling with it, are you basically are you like flash pickling the inside of your of your mouth?

SPEAKER_00 25:36

Like, yeah, you don't want to do it so salty that it you know really is as stringent, like really astringent. The the hypertonic is the key, that's the that's the upper bound, which is about like I said, it's about three times more than isotonic, and it's like a teaspoon of salt in warm water, eight ounces of warm water. It's not a ton. No, it's not a ton. You don't want like briny, briny, briny, briny water. Because again, you'll you'll you'll get diminishing returns, and uh it's just gross, you know. So what you're what you're doing is you literally are killing off the viruses, the viruses can't survive. It it's from osmosis, right? So that you know osmosis. Not osmosis Jones. I know you're thinking osmosis Jones. I am always thinking about osmosis.

SPEAKER_02 26:22

Not osmosis Jones. My favorite half cartoon, half live action.

SPEAKER_00 26:27

But yeah, so it's pulling the water out of the viruses because there's this weird thing in physics or chemistry, it's physics really, but it's it's chemicals, where if you have if you have a concentration of salt water on one side of a membrane, then it'll try to balance. So this the it'll suck the water out of to become neutralized. So it's almost like a little bit of a gravitational pull. So these viruses are floating around and they're full of water. When they're in a solution of of hypertopic salt water, yeah, they suck all the water out and they just shrivel up and they die, they burst and die and ripped apart by that.

SPEAKER_02 27:05

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 27:05

So you're basically destroyed, and your human cells don't, because they're bigger, they're much bigger. They can get the water sucked out of them and be fine. And actually, it reduces the inflammation and sort of the the crummy, you know, warm, you know, crumminess of that, of your cells too. So it's soothing and it's lowering the viral load. Okay. Also, if you really kick your mouth, your throat back, your head back, it will actually gurgle your throat, but it'll also gurgle the kind of back flap of your nose, nasal passageways that connect down into your throat. And I what I want that to happen? Yeah, because a lot of viruses grow and simmer cultivate up in that gross spoon back of your throat. That's why you have like stuff back there and you can kind of like clear your throat. It's always back there. Uh-huh. So you want to you know, throw your head back and really gargle the whole deal. And you want to do it for like 60 seconds. You want to do it a pretty long time. And you want to do it like five times a day.

SPEAKER_02 28:05

Five times a day?

SPEAKER_00 28:06

Yeah, like morning, noon, night, two other times.

SPEAKER_02 28:08

Yeah. Oh, just but if you're getting a cold. When you're getting a cold, just like it's a regular everyday. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 28:14

Just like you're starting to get this feeling, boom, start gargling salt water, you know, three to five times a day, but five times is like the so then you're basically constantly keeping that viral load down. Okay, then one more thing: neti pot with salt water. You know, neti pot.

SPEAKER_02 28:30

I just I wrote down, like as you were saying this, I wrote down neti pot and nasal rinse because they're you're saying, like, oh, it's good to get up there. I'm like, I've this I've done a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

Yes, this is the real slam dunk. So the net the zinc, good science

Neti Pot Basics And Why It Works

SPEAKER_00 28:46

supports the zinc if you get it without the the wrong additives and you do it early on. Garland with salt water to science definitely supports it, especially if you do it early on, hyper hypertonic. But the neti pot has like much, there's much going on there that if you don't do the neti, the nitty pot's probably the most important thing to do, actually.

SPEAKER_02 29:05

Well, explain it. I've I've seen the net I've had this before, but explain to anyone listening what a neti pot is.

SPEAKER_00 29:10

So a neti pot looks like a little teapot. It's like a small little thing with a little spout. And you stick the spout in your note. Well, you fill up with deep with with with you can't just use any water. That's one thing people need to know. You have to buy like distilled salt water. You can't use like water from the sink because you can get other problems with your body if you do that. So you get the neti pot and you get the bottles of distilled salt water, saline water, and you pour the salt water in the neti pot, you hold your nose over the sink and you pour the neti pot into one nostril. It fills up your whole nasal passageway on one side and then starts flushing out the other side. It's fucking gross.

SPEAKER_02 29:52

And it is as pleasant as it sounds when you describe it. You're filling your whole you feel every minute of that.

SPEAKER_00 29:57

You're waterboarding your face, essentially, your nose. But it turns out that this is hugely important for three reasons. One, for what just like gargling in the back of the tool, it kills the viruses, it lowers the viral load. Two, your nose actually is where a lot of flu of colds and upper respiratory viruses start. That's why they're called rhinoviruses. Rhinoceros. Rhino is your nose.

SPEAKER_02 30:27

Right in the nose. Your code.

SPEAKER_00 30:28

Right in the nose, right? So rhinoviruses, so you got to neti pot the rhinovirus because that's where even if you're just starting to have symptoms, you probably have been growing it in your nose for a day or two already. So you gotta hit the neti pot right away. And then the third reason is I can't speak to the exact science of it, but there's something that happens where in your nasal passages, when you pour that salt water in and the salt water washes over, for some reason, a small amount of chlorine gets chemically released by your nasal passageways. It's not like a lot of chlorine, like that would be dangerous, like a bad chemical, but it's at a very microscopic level. A little bit of chlorine gets released, and that acts as a continuing antiseptic to the viruses. So not only is the salt water shrinking and ripping apart the viruses, but you're getting this chlorine kind of shield weird thing that happens. And it doesn't happen in the back of your throat, it only happens in your nasal passages. Interesting. I can look it up a little bit more. Uh the exact when was the last time you had a cold, Adam? So last week. This is why I got the idea. Um, because I was like, we were playing around with these things in China. So we were starting to salt and uh, you know, rinse with salt, and we didn't get a neti pot though, so we missed the main thing, which was too bad. In the future, I will do that. In China they didn't have neti pots. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_02 31:56

Do you think yours came from just I like schools are the notorious one, but also plane flight is the other notorious one because it puts your body in a weird state for an extended period of time and you're in a tube with a bunch of other people whose germs you've never interacted with before?

SPEAKER_00 32:13

Is was it plain stuff or my my wife thought it was the that we had the window open and there was like a cold snap. I which we re we kind of thought about that because I really am like skeptical about that. But it turns out that that actually is true. Like if you're if you have cold dry air, you know, and you're breathing cool cold dry air, it does make the mucous membranes of your throat and your nose a little more vulnerable to viral infection. Gotcha. So you do need to have act the virus needs to be present. You know, you can't just get a cold from cold. That makes no sense. But if you do have that cool, dry air, and this is why people often say they got sick on a plane, cool, dry air, and they're around a bunch of people, they might get they might get um sick from that. But yeah, so we had that. We had the cool, dry air, and then we must have in China. Chinese people like to interact with babies, they like to like go up and touch the babies and pick up the babies and hold the babies. And we were trying to like make sure people didn't do that to our baby because we didn't want to get sick. But the baby went out with the grandmother a lot. Maybe the grandmother was like bragging about the baby, and so the baby might have brought it back. We were walking around the mall, I don't know, maybe we somebody sneezed right in our faces or something. But yeah, so that was that was what happened.

SPEAKER_02 33:40

I it's partly your fault for having such a cute baby. I mean, you should have had one of the worst babies. Yeah, I should have had a bad baby. Then people wouldn't be so interested in hanging out and coochie cooing the cool baby.

SPEAKER_00 33:51

Yeah, she is a pretty good looking baby, so she gets attract, she gets the attention. But anyway, so that's the three-step thing. If you do that, you satulate so gargle, gargle, salt on zinc, lozages, and neti pot zinc netipot.

SPEAKER_02 34:09

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 34:10

And you want to make sure that do it early. Do it early. Netipot's the most important one, but uh if you do the zinc, you have to make sure. Oh, here it is. Here's the science around the salt. So non-mel myeloid cells are augmented by chlorine chloride ions via an increase of cellular hypocorolis acid levels. So take that to the bank, you know. Makes it so that your nose is especially good.

SPEAKER_02 34:47

I do have a question. So I when I did neti bone, one of the things honey.

SPEAKER_00 34:51

Sorry, go ahead. Honey for the netty medicine through the nose. No, no, just you can you can take a spoonful of honey and eat it. It's as good as over-the-counter cough medicine. What? So you don't have to buy like Robotussin. You can just eat honey. It literally is the same. Yeah.

unknown 35:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:08

And it's micro it's antimicrobial. So it not only soothes

Honey, Zinc Details, And Water Safety

SPEAKER_00 35:12

your throat and makes it so you don't have a cough for like, you know, 20-30 minutes, like the cough medicine, but it also is antimicrobial and killing uh viruses that are back there. So yeah, honey is uh in a way better than this robot or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 35:25

The regular the regular cough stuff, yeah. Yeah. You gotta watch out how you source it though, because if you go straight to the hive and start messing with it, they're you're gonna you might get jammed up by all the time.

SPEAKER_00 35:34

And for the zinc, you want zinc acetate or gluconate, and you want to avoid citric acid or sorbitol. So people put citric acid and sorbitol in it to make it taste better, but it doesn't work as well. The acid, the zinc, acetate, and gluconate are good versions of zinc. And you can't swallow it. You have to suck on it because the point is to like coat the back of your throat with this zinc.

SPEAKER_02 36:00

I have long been a believer in the whole cough and flu industry that the worse it tastes, the better it effective it is. You know, like the medicine or my favorite cough drop is Fisherman's Friends, which are taste like garbage and they're terrible, but they are super effective. Like I'm like, okay, the worse it tastes, the better, you know, like if I force myself to do it, then it I'll have a better effect.

SPEAKER_01 36:23

Nice.

SPEAKER_02 36:24

I was gonna ask about the nasal pot or about the neti pot. I tried it before, and one of the things I ran into is like it would be it would be not just going in easily. I would be like at a stuck spot where it's like a clogged drain not going in. And then I switched at one point to like a like a squeeze bottle where I could get like a little little extra juice in there and push it up. But I wonder if that's kind of ruining some of the naturalness of it by the way. Oh, I see.

SPEAKER_00 36:52

They they do have like a power blast, like a squeeze netty. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:56

Yeah, because there's actually and then my I guess because my what the deviated septum situation, like I definitely have two different sized nostrils and two different, like one pathway is way easier to breathe out of than the other. So like I feel like with the squeezy bottle part, it kind of gets past my interior structural uh I think yeah, I think I might want to go with the squeezy bottle myself.

SPEAKER_00 37:23

There's an electric neti pot. Oh, that's not scary. Electric plus water plus my head seems like uh and then there's a nasal lavage where you put it into both this huge machine, you put it in both nostrils and it blasts through, and at the end you have the excess is there in the like container, like a reservoir.

SPEAKER_02 37:45

It's just like a face enema.

SPEAKER_00 37:47

It's a face. That's what that should be called. The face enema. It will sell so many of those, yeah. I think this squeeze bottle is good. Yeah, I'm gonna get this squeeze bottle.

SPEAKER_02 37:59

Squeeze bottle is good because it yeah, because I definitely my nose is like has a has a non a non-symmetrical situation underneath. Well, right on, I love it.

SPEAKER_00 38:11

Maybe you don't need to buy salt water. Maybe maybe you can just use purified water because I'm not seeing the bottles, I'm seeing just pre-mixed sachets that then you just put in water.

SPEAKER_02 38:23

But you should definitely some sort of like maybe from the tap, and now I'm like, oh yeah, you could have that has who knows what in it that you could be like seeding into your nozzle.

SPEAKER_00 38:35

But so this says always use distilled, sterile, or previously boiled water. Plain untreated tap water should never be used. Because it has trace microorganisms or amoebas that are safe to drink, but dangerous or even potentially fatal when entered into nasal passageways.

SPEAKER_02 38:55

Okay, but what about like water straight out of a creek or like at the Amazon?

SPEAKER_00 38:59

Even worse. What? No. They have little So it says purified versus distilled. While purified implies treated, the term is general. Be sure your purified water is specifically labeled distilled or sterile, or boil it before use. So if you must use tap water, boil it at a vigorous rolling boil for at least one full minute. Let it cool down until it's lukewarm. What about I have like a water filter that does like a carbon and particle filter?

SPEAKER_02 39:34

Right.

SPEAKER_00 39:35

That's my question. Let me see what AI says. Thanks, AI. Sound probably good. Not safe for a netipot. Standard carbon and particle filters like a Brita filter are not safe. They remove tastes and chlorine, but they're not guaranteed to remove microscopic biological pathogens. You must boil the water first.

SPEAKER_02 40:00

Alright, so definitely follow the instructions on the water so you don't get microscopic pathogens.

SPEAKER_00 40:07

Yeah. And then you can buy these little packets that are like whatever, pH balanced or something, but you want to make sure they're not giving you just isotonic. You want hypertonic. Hypertonic. So like three times the density then. Or I think we've got to do that. Could you just use three isotonics?

SPEAKER_02 40:28

Could you just get isotonic packets and dump three in? Or is that not? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 40:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:33

I don't know how the math works, but I'm just isotonic.

SPEAKER_00 40:36

Oh, it's only double. Isotonic is 0.9%. Hypertonic is 0.5 to 7%. So somewhere between two and through and two and four times more.

SPEAKER_02 40:46

Wait, you just said hypertonic, but you said a smaller number.

SPEAKER_00 40:50

Uh 0.9 is the isotonic, and 1.5 to 7 is the hypertonic. Okay. So it's double the two to four times more. Yes. Okay, okay, cool. Yeah, I don't know about the packet, the sachets, you'd have to look it up. You can also just put salt in it. I mean, who cares? You know, table salt is all you need to do.

SPEAKER_02 41:07

I figure that's what most people would do. That's yeah, but don't everyone has salt.

SPEAKER_00 41:10

Don't do tap water though. Or if you do, you gotta boil it for a minute. Let it cool down. Yeah. Yeah. Did you ever do any crazy stuff for cold? Did you ever do crazy cold solutions?

SPEAKER_02 41:21

I mean, I definitely bought into the emergency stuff or the airborne or one of them that you drop in like Alka Selsor, and then later on they're like, that's not, you know, it's just, you know, that's just like sort of uh placebo. But I've been I unfortunately I don't really get I get like one cold every three or four years. So it's really not a thing I focus on too much. I just I think I focus mainly on sleep. I go I go to sleep and I sleep like as many hours per day as my body or my brain will allow me to.

SPEAKER_00 41:56

So you don't want to do the full neti pot, you can just do the saltwater gargle. Even that will help a lot. Like there was kind of a black we had a little bit of a a test of two people, my wife and me. And I was like salt water rinsing from the because I was excited about it because I had learned all this recent science. So I was saltwater rinsing three, four times a day right away, and she kind of didn't really until her symptoms were really bad, like three or two, three days in. And my cold ended definitely two days before hers did. And I even now am like much better than she is still, just even like five, six days out. So yeah, I think that just salt water rinsed really did a lot. Oh, there's one more thing that I'm gonna try, which is kind of crazy, which is a a nebulizer. And this is so that you can breathe in and you have salt water droplets go all the way down into your lungs.

SPEAKER_02 42:48

Okay. Nebulizer is I like I've heard that with

Nebulizers For Bronchitis And Deep Relief

SPEAKER_02 42:52

respect to babies. Like that's how you give babies medicine sometimes. Right.

SPEAKER_00 42:56

But what is then a nebulizer is basically like a like a perfume bottle, makes like a spray of really, really tiny small particulates, particles of blobs of water. Then you put the nebulizer. Yeah, so you buy this thing that's called a nebulizer. You soak a little thing inside of it with hypertonic salt water, and then you turn it on and you breathe in. And you're you have to do it for a while. You're supposed to do it for like 15 minutes, but you you breathe and it it'll it'll it it'll put salt water all the way down into your you know upper bronchi. It won't go all the way into the very tiny recesses of your lungs, but it'll especially be coat your upper bronchi, uh, you know, airways.

SPEAKER_02 43:35

And you are living in a Star Trek episode. You are using a nebulizer to put your hypertonic salt water. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like yeah, it is we are full Star Trek at this point.

SPEAKER_00 43:47

Bring the hypertonic uh salt water nebulizer. I need to nebulize my upper bronchial with my hypertonic saline solution. That's right. So I want to try that one. That that one, the science of That one was basically, you know, most colds are really starting in the nose. And so you want it, the neti pot's the better one. And then the back of the throat's good because it's already kind of in the back of the throat. If it's already in your upper respiratory system, you've got a cold. Like you're fucked, you know. But doing it can help you. Like the reason I wanted to learn about that was because my dad, every couple of years, my dad would get like really bad bronchitis. Like he would be like sick for like two weeks and like really, really bad. And I don't know why exactly. I mean, he was working in a hospital, maybe he caught picked up stuff in the hospital so much for hand washing things. But he would get that. And he kind of was scary, you know. Your dad is like really sick for like three weeks, you know, up in the bed. Like this nebulizer thing could help with something like that. It'll reduce the viral load and it will soothe the inflamed bronchi, which is what you have from bronchitis. So I wanted to learn about that and I wanted to have the machine. I haven't bought it yet, but you know, I want to have that around in case I do get bronchitis, like if I get the same like my dad. So if you do get if you're thinking you might get a kind of bronchitis, this can help with that for the same reasons that gargling in the back of your throat. Because gargling in the back of your throat, it doesn't actually get down into the bronchi, right? It stays just kind of in the back of the throat. So yeah, so that's a little more extreme. And then there's another thing that's a little bit more edgy, which is a nitric oxide nasal spray. And this the science is not totally there yet. Um laughing gas, nitric oxide, nitric the naz from nitric nitric isn't

Nitric Oxide Ideas And Public Health Gaps

SPEAKER_00 45:36

that nitrous oxide. Nitrous. Oh, that's nitric. Nitrous oxide. This is I was definitely thinking of nitric nitric oxide. That's way less fun. So this will not make you have nearly as much fun.

SPEAKER_02 45:48

All right.

SPEAKER_00 45:49

Nitric oxide is a thing that's in your blood. And it's like longevity people are excited about it because it has like a young people have a lot of nitric nitric oxide in their blood. Old people get less and less nitric oxide, so there's some interest in longevity. But then people were exploring like during COVID, like nasal, like you like like snuff up nitric oxide, and maybe that helps you and in your lungs and in your nose. And it turns out that it does, but the science is still not, it's not a silver bullet, and you'd have to like go and get it, and it's like a medicine and stuff. So the easier thing is these salt water things, and and uh yeah, nebulizer you can buy on Amazon, NetiPot you can buy on Amazon, all these things you can just buy. So easy, accessible, non-prescription items, all of that. But this is the kind of things that if we if when COVID had happened, we were like, oh, let's spend $300 billion making a vaccine and do a bunch of masks on kids and stuff. Anyways, we did all these stupid things. Some of it was effective, but a lot of it was really stupid. If instead we had done things that the science really supports, like, for example, vitamin D, garlic, raw garlic, vitamin D, these things are major boosts for your immune system. The science is very strong around those. Salt water gargling, saltwater nebulizer. No one was talking about this. But when COVID, why weren't we saying if people had because COVID grows in the nose, that's where it starts. So if we had said, hey, do a neti pot, if you get any kind of symptoms, it will knock down your COVID, reduce the chance of long COVID, reduce the chance of hospitalization, blah, blah. We wouldn't have maybe had to spend $400 million, $300 million on a bac on a vaccine. Because the vaccine didn't even really cure people, it just made it so hospitalization was less. Well, I'm pretty sure neti pots would have lowered hospitalization too, because you would have hit it at the very beginning, lowered the viral load, you know.

SPEAKER_02 47:45

I wonder about this, because like it I wonder, is it part of a symptom of our American way of thinking where it's like your health care is your own responsibility? Like your health is your own responsibility, everyone to each their own. Whereas in other countries, especially like where I've lived in, it's like our healthcare is an important, like we we all we have a general like we have extra morning exercises that we all try to do together and encourage each other because we all want to be a healthy populace instead of it being like, hey man, I got mine, you get yours, and don't worry about it until when it comes sick time. That it's like, uh oh, what do we that falls apart real fast.

SPEAKER_00 48:22

Yeah, I mean, I agree with that. Like I, you know, I believe in Medicare for all and you know, providing tax, you know, universal tax-based insurance to everybody. And, you know, communal, communal, we should all take care of each other as a community. But even without that, neti pots are pretty ruggedly individual. Like you try to do a neti pot in a group, nobody wants to be there. You know, it could have, but people could have already like everyone was like, clean your clean your groceries. Like they said these weird things. No, I never heard a single person or scientist say, or met or doctor, or anyone I know, I know a bunch of doctors. No one said saltwater neti pot. Which now is so clearly that would have made a huge difference. And who cares if the neti pots fly off the shelf? We have a huge shortage of neti pots, like they're made of plastic. You can make a billion of them overnight, you know.

SPEAKER_02 49:13

Yeah, you could yeah, you could uh do a short supply from children's tea party, you know, toys, and you can like repurpose those in an it if you need to.

SPEAKER_00 49:24

Right away, yeah. Okay, so it looks like you can buy the the green box is hypertonic. The sh the blue box of of of of packets, like salt packets for your neti pod. Okay. The green box is hypertonic, the blue box is isotonic. So get that green box.

SPEAKER_02 49:46

Alright. Green box of what?

SPEAKER_00 49:48

What's the it's just called like sinus relief. Sinus sinus rinse. Sinus rinse.

SPEAKER_02 49:54

There you go. There you go. All right. Will the other one do something just not as much as it has? Or will it just kind of not do anything?

SPEAKER_00 50:02

It'll do something. It'll still give you the relief, it'll still help flush out, it'll give you a little bit of that salt releasing the chloride ions thing. Um but it won't really kill the viruses as well. Might as well. If you do the hypertonic, that really that's like you know, I'm dying. You know, you can think of the viruses like being ripped apart by that chemically, you know. So bleach, bleach kills viruses. That's right. You can drink bleach, snort bleach.

SPEAKER_02 50:32

Please don't do that. No medical problems with encouraging people to do that. Yeah, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 50:36

And ivermectin, you can get your ivermectin, and yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:40

All the things.

SPEAKER_00 50:41

Yeah, so if you guys get the cold, now you'll be free of the cold and you'll know you'll be like, solutions from the multiverse saved me from three or four days of cold symptoms that you otherwise wouldn't have had.

SPEAKER_02 50:55

You'll have to do three or four more days of work or school. You won't get as long of a break.

SPEAKER_00 51:01

You might call it one day on a 10-day cold, right? You might call it one day. So you can still take your day. Still take your day, but now you won't have the tail end of it.

SPEAKER_02 51:10

If you're good in a factory, you might be able to stretch it out to like 20, 30, you know. I don't know. You could oh, I really can't. It's I did, I definitely don't have any netty pots, and I didn't do any gargling of salt water, so I'm still sick.

SPEAKER_00 51:23

I just smoked a bunch of pot. I was told that I needed some natty pot.

SPEAKER_01 51:31

What? No, I'm wrong. Oh no. Oh, dude, what? Oh man, huh? Oh no, I'll go get a refund, bro. I'm gonna go get a refund, dude. I'll put my weed inside the netty pot. Then I'll just pour that super natty, dude. This is some sticky bud.

SPEAKER_02 51:51

That might help with the cold. I don't know. Have have the doctors tested that out fully? We don't know. They need to we don't know. I need to see the main never see the studies. Yeah. The natty pot studies. Cool. Well, thank you, Adam. I love it.

SPEAKER_00 52:06

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SPEAKER_02 52:37

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SPEAKER_00 52:58

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