Welcome And The Core Claim

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Hi everyone, I'm Adam Brows. I'm Scott Moppen.

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And this is Solutions from the Multiverse. Where we bring you a new unheard of solution every week for one of the world's problems. And Adam's bringing us a new one today. What do you got for us, Adam?

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Okay, today we're gonna talk about how the left should lift. The left lift.

SPEAKER_01 0:47

That's right. Did you even lift, bro?

SPEAKER_00 0:54

Did you even left? I got this idea a long time ago when I was looking at my fellow leftists. Because I go I weightlift, and you do you do you develop yourself physically. I don't know if you weightlift so much.

SPEAKER_01 1:08

I do like I do pull-ups and push-ups some and like jujitsu stuff.

SPEAKER_00 1:11

You do Brazilian jujitsu, so you would still really train. And I weightlift hard, uh, pretty hard. Well, since I've had a baby, less. But before I had a baby, I was really like three days a week, really hard.

SPEAKER_01 1:22

But as the baby gets bigger, you're gonna be weightlifting more, you know, that it's it's built in.

SPEAKER_00 1:27

Right. Yeah. I feel like more human. You'll be like I do a lot of overhead presses with the baby. I do a lot of like uh isometric bicep curls, like just holding the baby. That's an isometric. Yep, yep. So yeah, the baby is a sort of that's how you develop dad strength, right? But I think this really it's timely for us to talk about it today, this idea of that the left should lift because of Abdul Asaid or Al-Sayed. Because he lifts and he's very strong, and he has these like big arms and like neck, and like he's a ripped, you know, and he he even did a couple like promotional like YouTube video interview people where he was weightlifting in the video. So he actually makes like weightlifting part of his identity, and he won, like he won pretty solidly.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

So you mean like literally? I thought you were saying I thought you were gonna go metaphorically, like the left needs to get stronger or whatever, but you're talking about like literally people need to be lifting weights and understanding that physiology part of their humanity.

SPEAKER_00 2:32

It's more like understanding that other people, other just human beings, are going to look at you, right? Like when you run for office, and even if you're just in the street or you're, you know, if you're representing the left, right, they're going to assess you physically. And it doesn't cost anything to just be strong. And I think it has an outsize effect on people's assessment of you and assessment of then your ideology. And if everybody who shows up in the left is like scrawny or fat, either way, like unhealthy or sort of scrawny or or or overweight, I feel like the just run-of-the-mill human being, you know, just the world, will have a a negative a more negative assessment of the of the ideology. And so the it's it doesn't cost anything to just have people who want to really represent the left wing to go weightlift three times a week for an hour and you know, make their diet, you know, good, say, you know, a healthy diet with enough protein and enough you don't have to eat meat, you can still be vegetarian or vegan, but then you have to eat enough protein, you know, have to do like beans or or whatever. I actually had a student who is a vegan bodybuilder and he was insanely strong, and he was vegan. So I mean it's not even about like eating meat, it's just it's just being

Strength As A Political Signal

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stronger so that when you show up and you talk to people, people are like, whoa, you know, you you sort of you just have a kind of better commanding presence than your opponent.

SPEAKER_01 4:10

Yeah, you need to be able to like, I mean, it's it's good advice to be healthy in general anyway, and taking care of your body and putting regular exercise into it is just healthy, and lifting is good. Like, I hear some people go like, Oh, I don't want to lift because I'll get too bulky or whatever. You hear that? I'm like, I don't think that's bulky. That's not a problem. Most people have to be it's really trust me.

SPEAKER_00 4:31

Especially when women say that, I'm like, you're not gonna, you'd have to weight lift so hard and get your diet so perfect to get too bulky.

SPEAKER_01 4:40

I mean, that's it is it is generally better for like, yeah. I I got into kettlebells for a while and I was like, oh, this is back when everybody was doing kettlebell stuff, and it was like, oh, this is kind of cool too. I don't know, I don't I feel like I don't have because I never went to the gym and did formal lifting weights the same way that a lot of people do, so I feel like I don't have that background that a lot of people do with with lifting stuff.

SPEAKER_00 5:02

Oh yeah, you it sounds like you do more like body weight or then kettlebell like that. Yeah, or by calisthenics, yeah, is what I've done more. So how many times in history do you think the shorter presidential candidate won? Of the two?

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Um probably not. I mean, I'm guessing percentage-wise, maybe ten percent. It's 25.

SPEAKER_00 5:28

Almost almost every time the taller person wins.

SPEAKER_01 5:33

Abraham Lincoln was super tall. I mean, that's gotta amazing stats, right? But like sometimes like George Washington was also super tall too, wasn't he? Like 6'3, and for that time period that was like super giant size. Yeah, certainly for the time, right? Right. Trump's even tall. He's a tall guy, isn't he? Like six two, three, four, or something. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 5:56

It's not a it's not a rule, so it's not like every single time the taller candidate won, but it's a large amount of time. It's 75% of the time the taller candidate won.

SPEAKER_01 6:08

Are you connecting that to the reason you think that candidates should lift as well?

SPEAKER_00 6:12

Just to like Yeah, I think that's sort of a proxy for the more physically, you know, sort of large and sort of commanding, human beings are just primates and they look at the people and they're like, huh. Which ones more like fits my sort of cognitive template for like the head the big silverback gorilla? Yeah, the big strong silverback gorilla. And I'm not saying that this is the right thing or that this is good. I'm just saying this is a practical, I think it's a practical fact, and it doesn't cost anything to just be strong. You just can go do it, you just bake it into your, you know, your process. I also think there's a pretty clear phenomenon in America right now where people want to get like the men's vote, like young men especially. And and it and this is I think this is honestly just a good way to do it. If you're just strong and you just look strong and you say, Yeah, I lift weights, I can bench 225 pounds, you know. The guys who are listening to that, the young men are just gonna be like, Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool.

SPEAKER_01 7:28

You know? It gets you past that initial dismissal of like, hey, you're like a little weenie, why would I listen to you or whatever? Right.

SPEAKER_00 7:36

But and it might also be kind of like in the 90s, kind of like where people barely weightlifted. I mean, only athletes weightlifted, you know, really, usually. And it just wasn't as common of in the culture. There wasn't as much of a a connection to most people around it, you know. But instead there were other things that were more kind of that connected you and made you feel like the person was someone you could identify with, like, you know, someone who works the land or I don't know, some something that made you feel like you connected with them. Like, oh, they have a a really cute family and their little family unit is pretty. And so that made you identify them with them. They have a dog. I I like a president candidate with a dog or a right, a cute dog, something identify you identify with. But nowadays, I think people have to reckon that physical fitness and especially weightlifting for young men too, has just become like a major part of their a lot of their identity. And if they meet someone and the person's like, I weightlift, there's an immediate simpatico, like, oh, we both weightlift. Like there's this kind of connection. And so there's no reason and there's no negative to it. If you're strong and weightlift, no one's gonna be like, oh, I don't like you. You know, there's no downside to it, and there's a

Height, Presence, And Primate Brain

SPEAKER_00 8:56

I think there's actually a pretty large upside in terms of being approachable as a politician. So I I'm not just saying it, I don't know. I'm I'm saying it very real, very literally that that I think it would help.

SPEAKER_01 9:09

What you you know what I light up with the idea of with this suggestion is that this uh particularly does affect one of the things that I'm always harping against, which is that we have a bunch of 80-year-old people in control of things and uh you know older. And I'm like, that would skew things back down to a more reasonable age, I feel, of people where I'm like, yeah, the government should not be in the hands of people who are 80 and above. That's that's a crazy thing to be a default age for uh representation of your constituency, you know. That's what totally yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:44

I think if you had like an 80-year-old up against a very like skinny or a very kind of or a little pudgy, kind of overweight, unhealthy looking person, you're like, eh, they both look like pretty weak, you know. But if one person is like a vibrantly healthy person, I think that's pretty good. I mean, I think you'll get uh at least some young men, especially, will immediately turn towards you. And you'll also be more attractive. And that that does matter too, both for men and women.

SPEAKER_01 10:16

Yeah, I was gonna say the in politics, that's been a historically pretty good trait to be right physically attractive and fit, like charismatic and handsome or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 10:25

Yeah, and the people who would might push back on this, you know, they might say, Well, that's superficial, and it shouldn't matter, it should be about the policies and blah blah. I completely agree. I don't do I completely agree, but the reality is just it's just about more than that. Elections are just about the whole picture, you know. Have the good policies. Like, I like I think this is where where Al-Said is like a perfect case study. Medicare for all, you know, unions, like he he has the policies, but he also is like strong and kind of handsome. And I don't, I mean, handsomeness you can't control. So I don't I'm not saying, oh, the left should be handsome because then it disqualifies people who just aren't you know handsome.

SPEAKER_01 11:04

But there are little things in your control. Like you don't want to look like a crazy mountain man who just while like wanders around and never like have hasn't ever seen a mirror or a comb or anything. Like there's there's some stuff that you can. Well, Bernie got away with that. His hair was all do you think if Bernie had like a crazy Santa Claus beard, it would have I feel like at some point people would have been like, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 11:27

We can't pharaoh, like a pharaoh beard, you know, that would have been good. Oh, you mean like a wild beard? No, just like a wild, yeah, like a no. You need like the pharaonic, like you know, like a like a like a tetrahedron or not a tetrahedron, a trapezoid beard. That's pretty good.

SPEAKER_01 11:43

I was gonna say curl it up at the sides, but then you get into like cartoon villain training.

SPEAKER_00 11:47

I'm trying to avoid things that you can't control. Like I can't grow a beard very well. So if I said the left should have a beard, I don't think that's right. But what you can always control is are you strong? It's not hard. You just go and even if you're uh you know an endomorph, like you are of a larger body, you can still be strong. And you know who I think even really, really exemplified this is Michelle Obama. Michelle Obama would consistently show how strong she was in public. She did push-ups on Ellen's show in front of all of America. She would consistently like hold up her arm and go like this and like show that she was strong. She cared about right, yeah. And I mean, I don't know who has more political cachet than she than she does. I mean, she has a lot of political cachet, and she doesn't even really have any policies. She's just like be decent to one another, and I'm strong. I mean, that's literally her two points. And just with those two, she's one of the top Democrats, really. I mean, I think if she ran for president, she'd probably win. You know, she would she would have won against Trump if she had if she if they had put her in instead of Biden or Kamala last time. I think she would have wiped the floor with him. And Kamala was not very strong, she didn't seem strong, and she certainly didn't say, I'm strong, like you know, right. She she didn't lean into that, and she didn't seem very strong. She just seemed like a politician, you know, she just seemed like she's in the boardrooms all the time. There were there were a lot of issues with that. But the same thing with Biden, he looked weak, right? He looked weak, he looked frail. I mean, he looked mentally frail, which was really people's main concern. But he he he even looked quite frail physically, and I think that was a big problem. Trump, even though he's not he's not a weightlifter, you know, he's he's got a fupa, you know, he's not fit, he's not strong, but he's large and he's imposing large, he's very large, and he has this, he carries a lot of like bulk, so he looks very strong in a suit, you know.

SPEAKER_01 13:45

That's what he doesn't project strong to me in any level though, like that guy.

SPEAKER_00 13:49

Well, I mean just if you if you have a big guy, you're just being big makes you look strong, I guess. Yeah, I guess. Or the same thing with uh what was that guy who won who wore the shorts now who's flipped on Israel? Uh what's his name? Um John Federman, yeah, Svetterman. Huge guy, huge guy, and I think you know that counts. I think it counts in people's favor to be large, and you can't control your height, you can't control, right? But you can control how strong you are, and that's why I think this idea of like the left should lift, and Hassan Piker shows it too. Everyone comments on Hassan Piker that he's ripped, he's just yoked, and it matters, it matters. People believe him and trust him. Young men listen because of that. It doesn't make sense, it's not rational, it's maybe not even right, but it's just the truth, it's just the facts.

SPEAKER_01 14:40

Catch me up on Al-Sayid. So I'm not aware where is he campaign?

SPEAKER_00 14:45

What's his yeah, what's so he's running for Senate in Michigan? Okay, he's from Detroit, but he's a Muslim. I guess there's a ton of Arabs in in your in Detroit and Michigan, which is so there's a big population there of that uh ethnicity. And but his his grandparents, I mean

Fitness Culture And Reaching Young Men

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he's been American for generations, so he's uh you know, he's been American for three generations. So he's like he's not an immigrant, not a recent immigrant, you know, it's probably grandparents. Is he running against so he was running in the primary for the Democrats against Haley Stevens, who was a more concentrate Democrat who was getting funded by APAC, like Israeli money, and did not want Medicare for all, did not like support unions really, did not, you know, she was just this sort of centrist neoliberal, you know, uh, I don't know, uh you know, corporate thing. And then he was the like more Bernie Kratt sort of woke 2.0, you know, unions, Medicare for all. He's a physician, he's a doctor, he wrote a book about Medicare for All, all about how it would work and how it should work and the policies around it and the ways you could do it. So he's a he's an expert in Medicare for all. That's like his main thing. His big message was less money in foreign wars, more money in your pocket, Medicare for all. That was his like boom, boom, boom, three things. So he's very anti-Israel and you know, anti-genocide, and you know, or you know, or whatever you want to call it, anti absolutely punishing the Gazas out of existence and the West Bank, and then Medicare for All and trying to, you know, affordability, sort of like a Mamdani affordability. But he's strong. He's ripped, he's got big arms and big shoulders and big legs.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

Is that does he make that like a point, or is that a thing that people are pointing out about him?

SPEAKER_00 16:33

Yeah, he did multiple interviews while weightlifting, and he did one especially that was with the lever, which is like a left-wing outlet with I think is it David Sorota? I think it's David Sirota, is the head at the lever. So David Sirota came to his like gym and they were both weightlifting, and it was so funny because David Sorota is scrawny, he's like this scrawny left guy, like this like library, like left-wing guy. And you know, and then Al Said is like totally ripped. And I that's a sp that also underscored it for me. I was like, man, look at Sorota. I wouldn't follow that guy into a mall, much less follow him like into a mill, you know, into the into a war. Like, I wouldn't follow that guy anywhere. He's so he's so scrawny, you know. Even though I like David Sorota and I like his politics.

SPEAKER_01 17:25

It seems to send a signal that like when someone's fit or whatever, you're like, well, at on some level, you figured out how to be on top of something or like how to manage or not interesting fitness, you know, like it it and it doesn't send the signal that like there are places where you're out of control or whatever, I guess. Yeah. You send it. There absolutely can be places where you're out of control if you're physically fit, but you can they're not outwardly apparent the same way. Maybe other things are.

SPEAKER_00 17:53

Yeah, and it's not a silver bullet. Like, look at Gavin Newsome, he's very fit. You know, he has like a six-pack. I mean, he's kind of why he's kind of thin build, but he's fit. He's very you can't deny he's very fit.

SPEAKER_01 18:03

Yeah, there are notoriously people who are muscle-bound guys who are jerks and dorks and bad, like bad people. That is not gonna be hard to find. But yeah, it's not recommending the other way, right? You're saying like take the good thing about that and don't just dismiss the entire culture.

SPEAKER_00 18:20

And what's cool is weightlifting doesn't change your politics, it's just a thing you do with your body and it makes you healthier, and it just helps you win elections. I mean, I think in every case, now Mamdani is very slight. I mean, this is not a support, and Cuomo was quite he's quite bulky. You know, he was a bit more barrel-chested, and you know, he had a bit more and he was taller. But I I think in some ways that was part of the reason people were so excited that Mamdani won was because they were like, oh, look, this littler slighter guy, who's also like a socialist Muslim guy, was able to beat the like Italian barrel-chested taller guy. Like that was exciting because we all recognize on like an animal level that those are disadvantages. It's a disadvantage to be shorter and slighter. So I'm just saying, let's remove that disadvantage, you know, just by exercising, which is not hard to do.

SPEAKER_01 19:16

What if Al Saeed comes out to his next when is the when is the is the primary already done?

SPEAKER_00 19:23

Yeah, the primary is over and he won the primary, which was awesome. That was like a big upset. Like, cause was it by a lot or just uh it was by a good enough margin. It was like half a percent or percent. Like it was 50-50, but he he won very clearly. And then the official vote will be in November. November.

SPEAKER_01 19:39

Yeah, is it likely that like how does Michigan sway in that way? Is it likely that he proceeds on, or is it gonna be hard for him?

SPEAKER_00 19:47

Um I can check I'm only hearing about here, uh, him. I'm not hearing hearing about the yeah, I can check uh quickly the betting markets. Yeah, so he's he's he's at 60 percent and his opponent is at 40. So the betting markets have him about 20 higher chance to win.

SPEAKER_01 20:04

Exciting. Do you think when he gets elected and he comes up in his suit and he like rips it off? He's like, hey, all you Michiganiacs. He's like, I'm gonna break some laws. No, wait, actually, you can't say Michigania, I'm gonna bend the rules and break the rules. And he bends a bar, he bends some rebar.

SPEAKER_02 20:26

I'm gonna bend the rules.

SPEAKER_01 20:28

Have you ever been to a place where they take and like a giant dude rolls up a frying pan into like a cylinder? He just turns it into that.

SPEAKER_00 20:38

I think people might say if someone was critical of this idea, they might say, Well, this is just oh, this is the uh American society is just turning into a bunch of meat heads. This is dumb, this is bad. This is sign, you know, this is a sign of a sort of idiocracy, a sort of day.

SPEAKER_01 20:53

You should be exercising your brain, not your body. I know. Why are you telling me that?

SPEAKER_00 20:57

But to them, I would just say no, it's not that. It's just a cultural change from nobody really exercising except for athletes 30 years ago. I mean, very few people did much exercise, maybe some, you know, I don't know, like housewives would do some, like, you know, whatever, you know, aerobics. To now

Abdul Al-Sayed And The Gym Campaign

SPEAKER_00 21:16

it's a major part of everyone's life to have it, or many, many, many people's lives, to have a gym or to have a gym at home and to be, and a lot of men are weightlifting. They like to weightlift, it feels good. I don't know if it feels as good for women because I'm not a woman, and I but I don't I know that it just feels really good to weightlift as a man. You weightlift and you just are like, whoa, I afterwards you're like, I feel good.

SPEAKER_01 21:42

It's gotta feel good for everybody. I mean, just using your human muscle, like the the muscle give and take, the you know, whatever the it's like.

SPEAKER_00 21:49

But I think there's a testosterone thing too, though. I think you generate testosterone when you lift heavy objects. And testosterone is like a drug, like it makes you feel good. Uh, like if you just have testosterone in your body, it just it's it's it's a dope, you know, it dopes you up. So I don't, I don't know. Maybe maybe women feel the same way, or maybe women just feel exhausted afterwards. I mean, that would be more reasonable if you just felt exhausted because you have exhausted your energies, but people feel good, anyways. It's a big bar to people. People's identity now, and it's on social media all the time. It's very clippable. It's very like people you see people in the gym doing videos of themselves and sharing it. It's just become part of people's identity the way maybe like drinking beer was a more of a part of people's identity 30 years ago. I mean, still part drinking beer is still part of people, some people's identity, but it's shrinking, you know, like Gen Z is drinking a lot less, right? And Gen Z and millennials are weightlifting a lot more. So I don't see it as like some, oh, the culture, the sky is falling, the culture is turning into a bunch of dumb people. It's just an it's just an indication of similarity. Uh you know, they're similar to me because they weightlift, I weightlift, and a lot more people weightlift now. So that's just an easy way to be sort of signal that you're the same as them.

SPEAKER_01 23:04

So on a practical level, like because if you're talking to someone who already weightlifts, this they don't need this, but if you are someone who doesn't weightlift at all, what do you how would you recommend someone start? Like, what do you think?

SPEAKER_00 23:15

They should start by hiring a trainer.

SPEAKER_01 23:17

I think that's really important. Even if it's just for like I I have no idea how much hiring a trainer would be. Is that a thing that's gonna cost you like expending dollars a month?

SPEAKER_00 23:27

And you know, I would say do at least one a week for like 12 weeks. So, you know, like a thousand bucks. Like just set aside this is gonna cost a thousand bucks. I think that's really worth it. Actually, do six months, two thousand bucks, you know.

SPEAKER_01 23:42

But having a trainer, why why is having a trainer your go-to right?

SPEAKER_00 23:46

Because the main problem is weightlifting can injure you. Not because like a weight falls on your foot, but because you do too much weight or you do the bad form and you injure your bones or your tendons, your ligaments. And a trainer will very carefully well, they'll assess your goals. They'll say, What are your goals? Because you can weightlift in all different ways, right? You can weightlift a bodybuild, you can weightlift for functional strength, you can weightlift for balance, you can weightlift for all kinds of different stuff. You can weightlift for physique, you know, just just trying to have a really, you know, nice whatever physique that you want. Yeah, of course. Um, so if you say to the trainer, look, I want to have a great butt, I mean, it doesn't matter. You can say anything, whatever your goal is, then the trainer can like very carefully build you up to where you're doing a lot of more sophisticated, better motions.

SPEAKER_01 24:34

They could probably also save you from a lot of a wasted like going down a lot of dead ends to if you're whatever your goal is, because you don't know what not only do you not know the best things, but you also don't know the worst things to avoid. And that they can be like no, you don't need to that's not that's a waste of your time or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 24:51

Right. So you might see people like deadlifting, like just lifting a bar from from standing, you just bend over and lift the bar up, and that can really injure your back if you don't know what you're doing. Uh even if you do know what you're doing, deadlifting can be quite a bit of a risky motion. So you might see people doing that and think that looks like a good thing to go do, and then you could really screw your back up, you know. So I think it's important to get a trainer if you don't if you really don't know what's what's up, you should definitely get a trainer. It's a totally worthwhile. Also, you know, say it costs twice that. Say it costs five thousand dollars. Right. Think of your body as like a five million dollar machine. You know, it's worth it to spend a few thousand dollars to to to it to at one point in your life really learn how to like tune up the machine.

SPEAKER_01 25:36

Or or maybe if it's out of your price range, right out, like do a do fewer, fewer sessions or space them out or whatever. But sure, sure. You're saying disagree.

SPEAKER_00 25:44

Or if you if it's way out of your price range, then just go online and use like a really clue into one of the best weightlifters. It's this one guy, his name's Jeff.

SPEAKER_01 25:52

Um oh, I know I know one of the best weightlifters. It's the guy who pretends to be a janitor and he goes to like weightlifting things and then he watches people lift and he's like, and they're like, Oh, you think you could do better? And he's like, Yeah, and he just like lifts it, they're like, Why are you doing that, bro?

SPEAKER_00 26:07

And he has like a 70-pound mop. So he has the mop and they're like, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:11

He gets in the mop and the headers go, and always play a little like dwink noise.

SPEAKER_00 26:16

No, Jeff Nippard. Jeff Nippard is the person to follow. I think if you there's also another one called Squat University. So squat university is more like a physical therapist, but he also he just helps with like squatting, deadlifting, he'll show you really good technique. And then Jeff Nippard is like everything. He'll tell you exactly like if you want to build your biceps, here's how to build your biceps, you want to do this, you know, he'll tell you here's what you should do as an overarching workout if you're just you know, depending on what your goals are. But working with a trainer, even one time, if you just say to a trainer, hey, let me just train me one time and get me started. I don't have the budget to do more. Trainers will help you out. They just want you in the gym, they just want you there. Maybe you'll train with them later when you have more money, right? So they'll help you out.

SPEAKER_01 26:58

Well, and it sounds like you're saying use the knowledge available to you whatever way possible, but don't just go in and be like, eh, it's probably what what's it gonna be? Just lifting heavy stuff. No, yeah, don't do it. How hard could this be? You know, and be like, oh, because if you miscalculate in that direction, you have to pay for it with probably like waiting and rehabbing some sort of injury that you've caused potentially, or just being discouraged.

SPEAKER_00 27:19

Or I mean, I think injury isn't it's not so dangerous that everyone's gonna get injured, but you know, you won't make progress and you'll be discouraged, and you'll you won't have as much fun because you won't feel as good afterwards, because you know, and you won't have the expectations set. Like, for example, a trainer will help you with your diet, which a lot of people don't understand that in order to really be stronger, it's actually about you have to be weightlifting and doing the right motions, but actually, you also have to do your diet correctly. If you don't do enough, give enough give yourself enough protein and give yourself enough calories and enough rest, you also have to rest too. If you don't exercise, eat, and rest enough, you won't build your muscles, just won't grow and you won't and you won't get much stronger, and you won't get stronger on a kind of optimal rate. It's like a machine.

SPEAKER_01 28:08

I mean, it really is like a machine. You have to put in the right fuel, you have to do the right maintenance, you have to like do the you know, it really is. Think of your body as a complicated machine that you have to live.

SPEAKER_00 28:19

And look at and look at like Plato, right? Plato, we all love Plato, the great philosopher, but we know him by Play-Doh.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

I thought I thought you were talking about Plato, like the child's Plato, the philosopher. Think about Plato, and I'm like, okay, well, I don't want my body to be like Plato Mold your muscles. More people should be like a Play-Doh body people, and then roll your muscles in newspaper.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

Newspaper is there.

SPEAKER_01 28:41

I was gonna say, if my body was Play-Doh, I could make such great abs and just like as long as I didn't squish them down and walk around very just like it'd be like an ice cube tray. Oh my gosh, those are amazing.

SPEAKER_00 28:54

I don't think that politicians need to have abs, but they I think they just need to be robust. They need to be yoked. Yeah, yeah. Kind of yoked. I would like if I was gonna if I was gonna recommend someone to be

How To Start Lifting Safely

SPEAKER_00 29:07

a politician's weight lift routine, I would say you need to do a lot of like shoulders and back and chest to get and biceps and triceps so that your arms, like you know, kind of are strong in the suit and like your chest is robust. And then just controlling your diet, you'll lean down. Your legs don't really matter so much because you're in front of a podium talking, so people can't really see your legs.

SPEAKER_01 29:32

I you probably still want to work your legs just for balance, but I think this is an important point though. I think this is a good point because you're making a good point. There's a line, and then if you cross that line, it gets the wrong way because it's like looking big and looking strong is good. But then if you look like you spend 100 hours a day in the gym and you're shredded and you're like veiny and like weirdly, weirdly you know, strident with your muscles, then it's like, okay, now I don't trust you anymore. Yeah, right. There's something weird going on.

SPEAKER_00 29:59

Wait, you don't trust the the the the uh the liver king, you don't think you don't trust someone who looks like they are yeah, only lifting. I think also it's important for politicians to get thicker necks because your neck, you know, is very prominent in your you know, your collar, and and so for men especially maybe not for women, but women aren't gonna be able to get a thick neck, that'd be really hard. So men should do like upright rows and they should do like shrugs and they should do you know, like pull throat pulls to strengthen their trapezius, and they should do bicep, you know, overhead press and bench press and incline bench, and and you know, they should really develop what's visible in like what we see right now, like on camera, you know, when you're talking in CNN, you know, this is what's a this is what's visible, and so this should be robust and strong. Tiny little legs, okay, but you should have a lot of things. Yeah, tiny legs don't matter. You should have a Popeye butt. They're in pants, you know. Yeah, although people do do like a you know, the people sort of check out their butts a little bit, you know, politicians. People are like, oh, look at his butt. So maybe you should be doing some squats and deadlifts too, just to kind of make sure your butt's okay.

SPEAKER_01 31:10

Well, I was gonna say with the neck thing, you've already got this figured out, but I think we need to get the culture to move away from ties and buttoned up collars because that is uncomfortable when you have a thick neck, and so people are like, Men and women are more free to grow their neck to more reasonable sizes if we get get past this whole buttoning your collar.

SPEAKER_00 31:31

I actually think that the button collar with the tie actually what it does is guide the eye up to the neck and make the neck look strong. I think that's why men wear collared shirts with ties.

SPEAKER_01 31:44

But it also makes it look like you're already 50% of the way to getting like choked because I could just grab your tie and be like, eh, I know that people who don't agree with this are gonna be like, that's superficial. What are so what is that gonna be?

SPEAKER_00 31:59

Who are who what are they gonna throw at you if they're gonna say you should be able to you should vote for people based on their policies and based on their reputation and based on what they are gonna do. And I'm not disagreeing with any of that. I totally agree. That should be and and I think is the main the main thing that people vote for. Yeah. What I'm talking about is a peripheral that you can control that adds advantages to you, that maybe moves people from liking you to really liking you, you know, or feeling like they're gonna vote for you to feeling like they're gonna volunteer for you. They're gonna want to be in the same room as you, they're gonna want to really, you know, maybe admire you, kind of almost look up to you. It just helps and it doesn't cost anything really. And so the left should lift. You know, the right already knows this. The right already knows that they should be robust and they should lift, and they say I'm a manly man, and they, you know, but if the left did it, I think it would be more on an even playing field then.

SPEAKER_01 33:00

So what you give me one of your lift credentials. What's your favorite lifting exercise? What do you like to do?

SPEAKER_00 33:06

Well, my favorite's probably deadlift. I like deadlifting a lot.

SPEAKER_01 33:08

The thing you just said was super dangerous, and to be careful.

SPEAKER_00 33:10

It's a bit dangerous, it's a bit dangerous. But if you do wild man, you like to ride on the edge. Then it's it's great. Yeah. I like squatting too a lot, but I just I just kind of hurt my back squatting the other day because I was doing weird you find out that your body's actually pretty complex. Like it's like a suspension bridge where everything's kind of held in tension in balance. And so if you work out this thing, then like this thing like goes like that, you know. It it it you have to kind of be careful. And I was doing all this like hip stuff, and then when I tried to squat, my hip was like loose and it made my back kind of freak out. So you got to be careful and and try to kind of keep everything really, you know, kind of core stability has to be strong.

SPEAKER_01 33:52

I was talking to a guy yesterday who has his own Yado dojo in uh Japan, which is the sword drawing one, and he's like, he practices drawing the sword. And I'm like, This is a dumb question. Do you have to go on the other side and practice with your non-dominant hand so that you don't get like weird injuries? And he goes, We should do that, but we don't, and we do get the weird injuries. Like the doctor's like, why is your spine like like prone to twist in this way? Are you some sort of a golf? Like, what are you doing? It's just like, no, I'm drawing the sword. He's like, Well, how much does the sword weigh? It's like about a kilogram. He's like, Well, you have a kilogram weight that you're moving with one side of your body only, and so like on your spine, on the muscles that like pull and twist, one side is way more developed than the other, and that's starting to cause you issues. And I'm like, Yeah, it seems yeah, it seems crazy.

SPEAKER_00 34:42

But yeah, you can do that. Balance everything out. You know, I was a fencer for a while when I was a teenager, and when you're a teenager, it doesn't matter, but you know, when you're in your 30s and 40s and stuff, yeah, the fencers would get all kinds of weird, you know, injuries on one side of their body or on the other side of their body because they were working only one side.

SPEAKER_01 35:01

So yeah, I feel like they make pitchers now, even they make pictures like they're like, these are garbage pitches. This is not for anything other than keeping your body symmetrical, but throw a bunch of pitches with your non-dominant hand now. Like that's crazy. Like do that just to kind of even out so you don't get the you know, pitching is notorious for having crazy injuries because it's so wacky on a body, like wacky, yeah. Putting it at such extreme levels of stress.

SPEAKER_00 35:25

But yeah, I don't think, you know, maybe maybe that was the same thing, like, you know, politicians should be like, I like sports. You know, politicians shouldn't go out and be like, I don't like football, I don't like basketball, right? Like that it's the same thing. Like, I weightlift, I like basketball. You know, like that, these are just normal things for politicians to say in an American election.

SPEAKER_01 35:46

I think what we're searching for is like signals of regular people, like humanity and stuff. Because it has become this thing where politicians have specialized and specialized and specialized so much that it's like I'm a politician. What do I seem like? I seem like a politician. What's my background? Politician. Politician, right? Is there anything underneath that? Just more politician. And like if you can have someone who seems like a regular person who is an authentic person who's like, no, I have a life and now I care about politics.

SPEAKER_00 36:14

That's insanely just so much more, yeah, so much more attractive. And you get all these other benefits. Well, they're handsome, you know, they're sexy, they look good on camera, they look better than

Diet, Rest, And Smarter Training

SPEAKER_00 36:27

their opponent. Also, you you know, if you're weightlifting, you get kind of ruddy, you know. Maybe you go outside a little bit, get some sun. Uh, you know, you're a little tan. Like, I've always been surprised at Bernie. Look at Bernie, he's so tan. This guy lives in Vancouver or no, he lives in Vermont and Washington, DC. I think he tans. I'm almost certain he goes to a tanning bed because he's so ruddy. He's so tan. I'll take 30 minutes in your best tan bed, please. I think he does. I think he does.

SPEAKER_01 36:57

Got my speedo on. I can't let it tan. I've got my little goggles, my little speedo, and I'll be sitting in there for 30 minutes. Come come get me exactly 30 minutes. This is a huge tanning bed.

SPEAKER_00 37:08

I can't do a very good Bernie.

SPEAKER_01 37:10

I don't think I can. Yeah, I was I was nervous before I took it.

SPEAKER_00 37:12

But you know who goes against this theory is the guy who ran uh sh uh Shoycott, who just ran here against Scott Wiener. And he lost, but he was extremely strong, but he was very short. So Shoykott was very short and very strong, like bulky, like really, really bodybuilder strong. And then almost like a little meatball. He's very strong. And then and then Scott Wiener is like extremely tall, but just rail thin. Although he has shirt, he has pictures because he's gay and he does these like gay parades and he has his shirt off. And he's like, you you see him and you're like, dang, actually, he's a little strong. He's got some play-doh abs over here. He's got some ice cube trash. He he looks strong with his shirt off. And I think he deliberately does that, not just to say, oh, I'm gay and I I'm participating in gay culture in San Francisco, but which you know, shirt off, that's like a normal thing, right? But I think it's also for him to show, hey, I hit the gym too. Look at me. I'm not just this rail thin nerd. I'm a bit strong.

SPEAKER_01 38:13

Yeah. Well, I mean, any you've you lift weights and were, I mean, I'm not ripped or anything, but anytime you have some sort of muscle definition that you've been working on and you've been putting like the sweat and the time into it, and you get a little bit, you're like, absolutely, you're like the part of you who's like, I want people to see that, you know, like you say, oops, did you see all the results of my hard work? Oh no, oh no. Oh, don't look at me, no. Yeah, there's that's human, that's so human.

SPEAKER_00 38:46

But I'm actually, so in some ways, this supports the my my sort of theory, which is a bit of a sort of animal. It's like policy is like this much, and then there's like this animal instinct, and being taller and being more robust, right, you know, gives you that animal edge over your opponent. It's not reasonable, it's not rational, it probably shouldn't even ethically be the way people decide, but it's just facts. It's just it's just part of our who we are. So I think people have everyone should lift it. Lifting weights is healthy for for everyone, especially they've found for women it's very healthy for osteoporosis and for men, it's UALG.

SPEAKER_01 39:23

They're saying it more and more. They're like, if you want to be an old person and not have your bones be brittle and breaking soon, yeah, keep lifting weights.

SPEAKER_00 39:30

And men too, you know, men they they show you know grip strength, which is a proxy for just total strength, and and leg circumference, quadricep leg circumference is an indication of longevity. Like if you have a thicker thigh at at 90, you're probably gonna live to 100. But if you have a real skinny, thin thigh, you'll probably die in the next few years. Oh my god. So so there's so yeah, I mean, everyone should think about their health. But I think if you're a leftist, like like I am, I'm a I'm a happy leftist. I think everyone who's running for office should really seriously think, man, if I'm gonna run for office in two years for Congress, you just you should you just weightlift. You should start weightlifting now so that in two years you're fit and you can do this kind of this can be part of your identity. Like, yeah, like I, of course I weightlift, you know, and have go on someone's podcast to like a you know, and show yourself like being strong, show that you're robust. You'll beat the octogenarian you're fighting against, but just on pure animal magnetism, I think.

SPEAKER_01 40:28

It's also like the myth is that you're just doing body stuff, but it's also great for your mind. Like it's meditative, it gives you time to like think about things, like it's not just I have great realizations.

SPEAKER_00 40:37

Actually, I come up with solutions a lot when I'm weightlifting because I'm not focusing on anything, right? You just have a diffuse focus. You're like and you get out of a big weight.

SPEAKER_01 40:46

I think weights should be lighter. That's my solution.

SPEAKER_00 40:50

And then I put the weights down and I go, Oh, whoa, what if like something totally you know, what if society was totally different? Like, uh, so yeah, it is it is really and emotional too. I actually feel like when you push really hard through a hard lift, so almost like you can process like emotions, like, oh, I am anxious about that, or I'm fearful of that, or boy, I really love my spouse.

Health, Longevity, And Final Takeaways

SPEAKER_00 41:12

I really love you feel it because your your your superego kind of gets busy forcing the the weight from killing you, you know, like forcing the weight away from you. And then it actually opens up your your your feelings a bit too. So I think it's I think it's it shouldn't be identified as just this negative sort of muscle head thing. I think it should be celebrated as this amazing thing that that everyone can do and should do. And and you know, there's even these inspiring stories of like people in wheelchairs and they're like doing pull-ups and they're like doing it's like, yeah, everyone should be like strong, you know, like we should this should be a good set part of our culture. Yeah, I totally agree. Well, let's do it. The left should lift, bring it on. We can call it uh brochalism.

SPEAKER_01 41:55

I think lifting make the left lift is more easier branding to do.

SPEAKER_00 42:01

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SPEAKER_00 42:19

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SPEAKER_01 42:47

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SPEAKER_00 42:52

We just we just made it back. My dad's from Detroit, so I can do it. I can make fun of it.

SPEAKER_01 42:56

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_00 42:57

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